Extraterrestrial life

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Likely millions of sentient civilizations.

Unlikely to ever encounter them.

Differences in time/evolution and that small issue of expansion. We are getting further and further away from other galaxies to the point where one day the night sky wont have and light sources in it
 
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DirkvT said:
Coupled with the fact that these objects arrived in the skies surrounding my house after ce-5 protocols, i don't believe that to be coincidence. Coincidences cannot be proven mathematically, statistically, etc.
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So you've noticed a correlation between e-5 and their arrival. Have video footage? Mind posting one of the raw images straight from the camera?
 

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porchrat said:
The sheer scale of the universe means there is likely something else out there somewhere.

The interstellar distances involved in establishing contact means we will likely not know for certain for the foreseeable future.

Even at the speed of light it still takes a stupid amount of time to reach another star.
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Is say it's highly likely that the universe is teeming with life form's. Some we couldn't even fathom!
 
DirkvT said:
"Until then, my ideas don't change"

So then, you think you know everything there is to know about the mechanics of the world and universe around you, because you have decided, "I know it all; my knowledge base is optimally attuned and needs no further upgrades"
Are you being serious?
Are you by any chance highly religious? Because i then could understand.
But here you are unwilling to look at evidence in front of your face, and willfully adopting a "head in the sand" attitude?
That's called willful ignorance.
That's not very scientific.
Science makes advances all the time. Previous theories are disproven and new ones adopted based on the scientific method.
And our current science relating to understanding ufo phenomenon has barely even lifted off the tarmac.
We have not even scratched the surface.

Do you see the extreme shortcomings of your stance?
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I am religious, but even when I wasn't I still didn't believe in aliens. Do you honestly believe aliens exist if they only appear to a certain few? If they've apparently been so active but yet haven't shown themselves en-masse to others?
To try allege I know everything about the mechanics of the world and the universe around me is a poor attempt at taking the higher ground here. I have my views, you have yours. Move on.
Science DOES make advances all the time and it's very exciting. But aliens have apparently been visiting here for centuries and yet never shown themselves. Makes you wonder why.
 
OhYeah84 said:
I am religious, but even when I wasn't I still didn't believe in aliens. Do you honestly believe aliens exist if they only appear to a certain few? If they've apparently been so active but yet haven't shown themselves en-masse to others?
To try allege I know everything about the mechanics of the world and the universe around me is a poor attempt at taking the higher ground here. I have my views, you have yours. Move on.
Science DOES make advances all the time and it's very exciting. But aliens have apparently been visiting here for centuries and yet never shown themselves. Makes you wonder why.
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I think there is a big difference in believing Aliens exists and believing they visited earth... Looking at the balance of probability and the vastness of the Universe, it is possible that Alien life and even intelligent Alien life exists.
Looking at the distances involved, chances that they have visited earth is extremely unlikely.
All this are also just based on mathematics and speculation. If you look at the facts only, we have not found any evidence of any extraterrestrial life forms...
Distorted pictures of odd objects in the sky is as much proof of the existence of Tinkerbell, Angels, Yahweh and Thor as it is of Alien spacecraft...
 
DirkvT said:
Absolutely, many people report meeting the Machine elvs on a dmt trip; very common report among dmt users
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I met the machine elves on LSD. I was not aware of McKenna’s talks or books the time. Blew my mind it was a common entity experienced by others down to the smallest detail. Up there with one of the best experiences of my life time.
 
OhYeah84 said:
1. Aliens seemingly visit Earth yet we haven't seen a mass viewing of them. Are they that scared?
2. Aliens seemingly helped build the pyramids and then left never to return. Did they lose their directions?

Also aliens don't exist.
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OhYeah84 said:
Dude, I have better things to do than go down a rabbit hole. No, I haven't seen any of your photos and why have you not published them, been on TV, written books etc.
Mass sightings...as in multiple cities all at the same time. That kind of mass sighting.
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In all fairness your starting proposition is: 'Aliens don't reveal themselves therefore they don't exist'. This doesn't really carry any weight other than that it makes sense to you. Even to a skeptic this form of argument wouldn't really mean anything. Aliens might have 1001 reasons for operating like they do.

@DirkvT started with a claim: Some form of mediation results in ufo's revealing themselves and then proceeded to provide far more material support for their claim than anyone was expecting.

From a bystanders perspective, @DirkvT makes a stronger case for aliens existing than you do for them not existing.
 
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s0lar said:
I met the machine elves on LSD. I was not aware of McKenna’s talks or books the time. Blew my mind it was a common entity experienced by others down to the smallest detail. Up there with one of the best experiences of my life time.
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Where can i get some DMT ?
 
DirkvT said:
You are literally the one who has his head in the sand and hands over his eyes refusing to look at new research.
There's loads of research into the science of human consciousness - but - this is all woowoo in your subjective opinion and not worth investigating.
If you were in charge of human science, we'd still be living in caves right now.
And - i'm not the only one who has achieved ufo visitation from communication through meditative channels.
Here - go tell these 45 000 people in this group that they're all whackos. Good luck!

https://www.facebook.com/groups/205824492783376
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Desig said:
Is say it's highly likely that the universe is teeming with life form's. Some we couldn't even fathom!
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Cray said:
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There are a few problems with the "everyone carries a cellphone camera all the time these days, but no one has snapped a ufo" proposition :

- most of those people are literally looking down, (not up), with their faces glued to their screens
- cellphone cameras are pathetic at picking up ufos. It is extremely rare for a ufo to come down close; every one i have photographed i would estimate 3-5km in altitude. They look like just a tiny (but very bright) dot to the naked eye. You need a powerful zoom camera like a nikon p1000 to achieve the photos i get. I have a superzoom camera myself called the canon powershot sx60. My ufo photos were taken at a zoom factor of on average 210x.
- if you did try take a photo of a ufo with a cellphone camera, it would look like just a vague, tiny dot against the blue sky. Then, if you were to post said photo online for others to see, all you would receive is criticism along the lines of "Wtf is that? Looks like you placed a grain of sand against a piece of blue paper"

Plenty of people in ce-5 groups are using their cellphones though, as not many people own powerful zoom cameras.
I've seen no shortage of phone camera footage of tiny moving dots in the sky
 
DirkvT said:
There are a few problems with the "everyone carries a cellphone camera all the time these days, but no one has snapped a ufo" proposition :

- most of those people are literally looking down, (not up), with their faces glued to their screens
- cellphone cameras are pathetic at picking up ufos. It is extremely rare for a ufo to come down close; every one i have photographed i would estimate 3-5km in altitude. They look like just a tiny (but very bright) dot to the naked eye. You need a powerful zoom camera like a nikon p1000 to achieve the photos i get. I have a superzoom camera myself called the canon powershot sx60. My ufo photos were taken at a zoom factor of on average 210x.
- if you did try take a photo of a ufo with a cellphone camera, it would look like just a vague, tiny dot against the blue sky. Then, if you were to post said photo online for others to see, all you would receive is criticism along the lines of "Wtf is that? Looks like you placed a grain of sand against a piece of blue paper"

Plenty of people in ce-5 groups are using their cellphones though, as not many people own powerful zoom cameras.
I've seen no shortage of phone camera footage of tiny moving dots in the sky
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Just a clarification, do you think your UFO pictures are pictures of extra-terrestrial objects?
 
Anti-Chris said:
I think there is a big difference in believing Aliens exists and believing they visited earth... Looking at the balance of probability and the vastness of the Universe, it is possible that Alien life and even intelligent Alien life exists.
Looking at the distances involved, chances that they have visited earth is extremely unlikely.
All this are also just based on mathematics and speculation. If you look at the facts only, we have not found any evidence of any extraterrestrial life forms...
Distorted pictures of odd objects in the sky is as much proof of the existence of Tinkerbell, Angels, Yahweh and Thor as it is of Alien spacecraft...
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How aliens travel through space or from one point in the universe to another, can barely be comprehended by the average human mind. They do not travel in a linear fashion - in a "straight line" from point A to point B.
That is how amateur humans would travel. But that is not how they travel.
They take shortcuts. They generate distortions in spacetime. They use Einstein-Rosen bridges. They change their frequency to match the frequency of their destination. Gargantuan distances even impossible at the speed of light can be annihilated in seconds.
Thinking that they travel from point A to point B, "in a straight line", in a linear fashion much like how we would send a rocket somewhere, is bluntly wrong.
 
Cray said:
Just a clarification, do you think your UFO pictures are pictures of extra-terrestrial objects?
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Yes. Or interdimensionals. But an extraterrestrial can also be interdimensional. Some ufos are actually biological beings themselves and not "craft" at all. I talk about these ones in my presentation here :

 
DirkvT said:
Yes. Or interdimensionals. But an extraterrestrial can also be interdimensional. Some ufos are actually biological beings themselves and not "craft" at all. I talk about these ones in my presentation here :

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Hoekom praat jy nie Afrikaans nie ? Wat is 'n "Machine Elf" in Afrikaans ?
 
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