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Apparently Ferrari turned down performance on their PUs to protect the turbos in the thin Mexican air. They're bargaining on DNFs from the guys ahead.
 
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Apparently Ferrari turned down performance on their PUs to protect the turbos in the thin Mexican air. They're bargaining on DNFs from the guys ahead.
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At this stage I'd think that it's less embarrassing or better to finish than to DNF considering the frustration and calls for heads to roll over the past season. Nothing more important though than for all teams who can to bring the fight to RB for the last few races though.
 
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I'm not a Hamilton fan, but it's not his fault, that teams couldn't piece together a good car to challenge him and Mercedes.

So in that way, to have budget caps, could potentially level the field, or close it up. In theory, the FIA should just set a one size fits all approach, where they say, that every team will only have 30 hours of wind tunnel testing (except Ferrari, they allowed more) as an example.. whether it's RB, Merc, Williams, all the same.

The top teams are allowed way too many opportunities to get better in F1, much like in football.
 
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I'm not a Hamilton fan, but it's not his fault, that teams couldn't piece together a good car to challenge him and Mercedes.

So in that way, to have budget caps, could potentially level the field, or close it up. In theory, the FIA should just set a one size fits all approach, where they say, that every team will only have 30 hours of wind tunnel testing (except Ferrari, they allowed more) as an example.. whether it's RB, Merc, Williams, all the same.

The top teams are allowed way too many opportunities to get better in F1, much like in football.
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I read a tweet the other day which read something along the lines of that it's incredible that the worst car from Mercedes in over 8 years still manages to keep up with the best cars in 14 years from Ferrari and RB in 9 years.

It's evident that the cost cap together with new specifications has had the largest impact in closing the gap between teams at least initially. So in some ways it's good but I can't help but feel that perhaps being the pinnacle of motorsport without unconstrained development may hurt it in the long run too.
 
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Icemanbrfc said:
I'm not a Hamilton fan, but it's not his fault, that teams couldn't piece together a good car to challenge him and Mercedes.

So in that way, to have budget caps, could potentially level the field, or close it up. In theory, the FIA should just set a one size fits all approach, where they say, that every team will only have 30 hours of wind tunnel testing (except Ferrari, they allowed more) as an example.. whether it's RB, Merc, Williams, all the same.

The top teams are allowed way too many opportunities to get better in F1, much like in football.
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The new regulations allow the weaker times more wind tunnel (and other development) time exactly to mitigate this.
 
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Maybe somebody with the know-how can explain. Why is the gap between the teams so much closer at this circuit?
 
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I reckon the thin air means the turbos have to work that much harder and so the boost is turned down a bit. Aero drag is also less.
 
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quovadis said:
I read a tweet the other day which read something along the lines of that it's incredible that the worst car from Mercedes in over 8 years still manages to keep up with the best cars in 14 years from Ferrari and RB in 9 years.

It's evident that the cost cap together with new specifications has had the largest impact in closing the gap between teams at least initially. So in some ways it's good but I can't help but feel that perhaps being the pinnacle of motorsport without unconstrained development may hurt it in the long run too.
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Problem still is, that Merc, Ferrari, RB still have difference makers in their engineering dept, their staff is of the best of the best, so even if the cap is leveled, it requires say an Alpine to somehow find their own Adrian Newey and so on.

Newey will just find a way to find a fix to the problem, by re routing the design to mitigate the penalties of less wind tunnel testing.
 
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Problem still is, that Merc, Ferrari, RB still have difference makers in their engineering dept, their staff is of the best of the best, so even if the cap is leveled, it requires say an Alpine to somehow find their own Adrian Newey and so on.

Newey will just find a way to find a fix to the problem, by re routing the design to mitigate the penalties of less wind tunnel testing.
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To be fair you can argue that a great deal of Merc's staff is now at RB so it's not impossible to poach staff within similar financial constraints (except the top 3 obviously). I agree that the bigger teams still have means to mitigate such constraints more so than others. It's been raised that the RB 10% wind tunnel penalty means that the cost they save from not running for that purpose just gets redirected to other performance projects.

I still can't help feel that I'd prefer an unlimited engineering approach for F1.
 
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Icemanbrfc said:
Newey will just find a way to find a fix to the problem, by re routing the design to mitigate the penalties of less wind tunnel testing.
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The FIA have just effectively increased the Price of Sandwiches in the RBR Canteen (For Budget Purposes ;))
 
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