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OhYeah84 said:
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Alpine have found a way to turn porpoising on and off, says Sporting Director Alan Permane | Formula 1®

Aerodynamic porpoising has been a key feature of Formula 1 pre-season, with teams scratching their heads working out how to iron the phenomenon out of the new generation of cars – and it seems Alpine are one who have managed to do just that
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No real clues on how, but it looks like settings they can apply. Could be in-race, could be done in the pits after a shake-down run on a Friday and before qualifying.
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"He added: “We've been finding our limit and it's not just one thing. It is of course linked to where the rear sits, but there are other factors as well. So, it's not just as crude as lifting the riding height, there other things to tune in there. We've found two or three things today that helped and by making it worse we've figure out that do the opposite that's going to be better.”"

Looking at what he said, this will be a mechanical setup change in the pits, and it seems like this is will track dependent.

So likely that they will rock up at a track, assess how baldy the porpoising is during FP1, and then dial in the setup to a point where the downforce/time drop-off vs porpoising gets to an acceptable level.
 
OhYeah84 said:
Bigger things to worry about than the guy changing his name. I skim over all the social media posts around this now.
As if changing your name will have such a massive impact on society.
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If it's not such a big deal, why did he have to go advertise it all over social media. Obviously couldn't just do it, but wanted everyone to know he did it and why he did it. That's attention seeking...
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
If it's not such a big deal, why did he have to go advertise it all over social media. Obviously couldn't just do it, but wanted everyone to know he did it and why he did it. That's attention seeking...
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Agreed, I couldn't care less either way although his reasoning behind it is a bit off (why MUST a woman take her husband's surname without even figuring in that a woman might just want to do that).

People like Vettel carry on doing things as quietly as possible without drawing attention to themselves, and this is why I respect him more. My 2c worth of opinion.
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
If it's not such a big deal, why did he have to go advertise it all over social media. Obviously couldn't just do it, but wanted everyone to know he did it and why he did it. That's attention seeking...
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Could you point out where he has done that? Or is your bias just making it up to suit your opinion?
 
Dave said:
I'm not, but I did go check his social media before posting the reply. So can you point out where he did it or were you just talking crap?
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I'm talking crap. He went to the normal media seeking attention. Does that make you feel better?
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
I'm talking crap.
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I'm glad we can agree on one thing.

Mike Hoxbig said:
He went to the normal media seeking attention.
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Do you any links to show he did that?

Or did the media just sensationalise it as they do with most celebrities?

You really should try and calm your hatred, it's really quite irrational.
 
FIA think they have solved all problems now:

In the wake of the Abu Dhabi debacle the FIA has made a subtle change to the Sporting Regulations relating to lapped cars should the Safety Car be deployed.

In rejecting Mercedes protest last December, the Abu Dhabi stewards admitted that "Article 48.12 may not have been applied fully".

Article 48.12 of the 2021 Sporting regulations read: "If the clerk of the course considers it safe to do so, and the message 'LAPPED CARS MAY NOW OVERTAKE' has been sent to all Competitors via the official messaging system, any cars that have been lapped by the leader will be required to pass the cars on the lead lap and the safety car.

"This will only apply to cars that were lapped at the time they crossed the Line at the end of the lap during which they crossed the first Safety Car line for the second time after the safety car was deployed."


However, the latest version of the regulations, issued today sees Article 55.13 state that: "If the clerk of the course considers it safe to do so, and the message 'LAPPED CARS MAY NOW OVERTAKE' has been sent to all Competitors using the official messaging system, all cars that have been lapped by the leader will be required to pass the cars on the lead lap and the safety car".

It was the ambiguity of the word 'any' that was at the centre of the storm, race director, Michael Masi having allowed only those five cars separating race leader Lewis Hamilton and Max Verstappen to pass the Safety Car and un-lap themselves rather than all the cars that had been lapped.

It was the 'removal' of those five cars that gave the Dutchman a clear run on his rival when the race finally resumed with just one lap remaining.
 
caroper said:
FIA think they have solved all problems now:

In the wake of the Abu Dhabi debacle the FIA has made a subtle change to the Sporting Regulations relating to lapped cars should the Safety Car be deployed.

In rejecting Mercedes protest last December, the Abu Dhabi stewards admitted that "Article 48.12 may not have been applied fully".

Article 48.12 of the 2021 Sporting regulations read: "If the clerk of the course considers it safe to do so, and the message 'LAPPED CARS MAY NOW OVERTAKE' has been sent to all Competitors via the official messaging system, any cars that have been lapped by the leader will be required to pass the cars on the lead lap and the safety car.

"This will only apply to cars that were lapped at the time they crossed the Line at the end of the lap during which they crossed the first Safety Car line for the second time after the safety car was deployed."


However, the latest version of the regulations, issued today sees Article 55.13 state that: "If the clerk of the course considers it safe to do so, and the message 'LAPPED CARS MAY NOW OVERTAKE' has been sent to all Competitors using the official messaging system, all cars that have been lapped by the leader will be required to pass the cars on the lead lap and the safety car".

It was the ambiguity of the word 'any' that was at the centre of the storm, race director, Michael Masi having allowed only those five cars separating race leader Lewis Hamilton and Max Verstappen to pass the Safety Car and un-lap themselves rather than all the cars that had been lapped.

It was the 'removal' of those five cars that gave the Dutchman a clear run on his rival when the race finally resumed with just one lap remaining.
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The next legal debate will be over the new ambiguity that 'LAPPED CARS MAY NOW OVERTAKE' when a lapped car chooses to hold position to cover a team mate :unsure:
 
The one thing I've notices is all the cars are running much closer to the ground now than at the beginning of testing, probably softened the suspension too, as they are starting to use the kerbs again and the bouncing around on bumps has been reduced as well.
 
caroper said:
FIA think they have solved all problems now:

In the wake of the Abu Dhabi debacle the FIA has made a subtle change to the Sporting Regulations relating to lapped cars should the Safety Car be deployed.

In rejecting Mercedes protest last December, the Abu Dhabi stewards admitted that "Article 48.12 may not have been applied fully".

Article 48.12 of the 2021 Sporting regulations read: "If the clerk of the course considers it safe to do so, and the message 'LAPPED CARS MAY NOW OVERTAKE' has been sent to all Competitors via the official messaging system, any cars that have been lapped by the leader will be required to pass the cars on the lead lap and the safety car.

"This will only apply to cars that were lapped at the time they crossed the Line at the end of the lap during which they crossed the first Safety Car line for the second time after the safety car was deployed."


However, the latest version of the regulations, issued today sees Article 55.13 state that: "If the clerk of the course considers it safe to do so, and the message 'LAPPED CARS MAY NOW OVERTAKE' has been sent to all Competitors using the official messaging system, all cars that have been lapped by the leader will be required to pass the cars on the lead lap and the safety car".

It was the ambiguity of the word 'any' that was at the centre of the storm, race director, Michael Masi having allowed only those five cars separating race leader Lewis Hamilton and Max Verstappen to pass the Safety Car and un-lap themselves rather than all the cars that had been lapped.

It was the 'removal' of those five cars that gave the Dutchman a clear run on his rival when the race finally resumed with just one lap remaining.
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So are they admitting that just maybe nothing was legally wrong with that fateful decision.
 
Jean Claude Vaaldamme said:
Ok, so Labradormeister may have gone to all media houses or may not have gone to any
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Did he also to the media when he was silent on social media over the winter break? There were still lots of articles purely based on that.

We get it. You are not a fan of Hamilton and will put him down for anything he does or does not do.
 
Christo4 said:
So are they admitting that just maybe nothing was legally wrong with that fateful decision.
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No they are refusing to say anything about the decision and its legality and hoping it will all go away when the Lights go out on Sunday.
 
Oh look, now Toto is looking for attention (cos thats what some people here will say)
www.planetf1.com

Toto Wolff opens up about his ongoing mental health struggles

Toto Wolff has opened up about his struggles with his mental health, and revealed he has been seeing a psychiatrist for the past 18 years.
www.planetf1.com www.planetf1.com

I guess its become more relevant recently and quite interesting to see more people open up on it
 
Yats said:
Oh look, now Toto is looking for attention (cos thats what some people here will say)
www.planetf1.com

Toto Wolff opens up about his ongoing mental health struggles

Toto Wolff has opened up about his struggles with his mental health, and revealed he has been seeing a psychiatrist for the past 18 years.
www.planetf1.com www.planetf1.com

I guess its become more relevant recently and quite interesting to see more people open up on it
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Yeah, that's totally the same thing... :rolleyes:
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
Likewise for Hamilton fans who will suck his cock for anything he does or does not do...
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Really? I don't see anyone doing that. I also only see the MyKKK Hamilton haters post every little bit of shìt they can find on the net about him.

You don't see those who don't hate him posting all the positive but not F1 news that is written about him in the media.
 
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