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OhYeah84 said:
Nope, he told the marshalls to leave his car. They seemed unable to understand or listen to what he said. He was fully within his rights to tell them that knowing the car would be repairable.
Rules are rules though unfortunately no matter how much you try to get it undone.
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This opens up so many more questions.

Remember, these marshals are not experts in the rules so you have to keep it simple for everyone.
 
2021 said:
This opens up so many more questions.

Remember, these marshals are not experts in the rules so you have to keep it simple for everyone.
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I bet they also had race control in their ears pressuring them to get the mess cleaned up as quickly as possible so that things could get underway again.
 
2021 said:
This opens up so many more questions.

Remember, these marshals are not experts in the rules so you have to keep it simple for everyone.
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100%, but I can see both sides to this argument. A couple of years ago there would be a spare car set up that the driver could jump into after making the necessary modifications.
And for Russell, a red flag would mean fixing the car and starting in the same place on Lap 1. But the marshalls needed to clear the car. Looks like a disconnect between them and their supervisors on what to do as well. Whether or not Merc were in communication with race director and then through the chain is anyone's guess.
 
MBB, we hate Liberty media, they just want to make a big show and drama out of it.

Liberty media brings out a safety car for every little thing so field can bunch up and influence race order.

MBB, give us more
 
Jean Claude Vaaldamme said:
MBB, we hate Liberty media, they just want to make a big show and drama out of it.

Liberty media brings out a safety car for every little thing so field can bunch up and influence race order.

MBB, give us more
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Technically Ocon's car needed to be moved safely as it was on a straight. People overtake on that straight and it's done at high speed.
Whether or not a full Safety Car was required, or a VSC is up to the rule makers. Suggest you check that out and see where it fell in.
 
Jean Claude Vaaldamme said:
MBB, we hate Liberty media, they just want to make a big show and drama out of it.

Liberty media brings out a safety car for every little thing so field can bunch up and influence race order.

MBB, give us more
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Imagine the speeds the cars drive on that straight, that would've been a fck up of note.
 
Harold_Crick said:
Unfortunately, the rules are correct.

The argument is drivers are not equipped nor trained to offer emergency assistance to another driver. The risk is they either worsen the situation or find themselves in trouble too.
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Yeah, agree. This isn't 1952 where nobody would even know someone's gone off into the forest at Nurburgring.
 
Craig_ said:
Imagine the speeds the cars drive on that straight, that would've been a fck up of note.
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Under a VSC they drive slow and don't overtake and don't loose your gap that you worked hard for the whole race. That straight is nice and wide for cars to keep one side slowly on VSC and marshals to push car quickly away and maybe loosing only 1 racing lap.

They have the ability to warn drivers within seconds that there is some fluid spill on one corner of the track. So how difficult can it to tell them of VSC and keep left on a wide straight at 40% less speed?

And BTW, I never complained about Liberty media, I like all the excitement. Just giving an example how when it favours you team, you think its great and when not you complain.

Surely one should spot the similarities to Nascar and Indycar where safety cars are the norm to bunch up the field, introduce pitstops and different strategies to make more entertainment?
 
Jean Claude Vaaldamme said:
Under a VSC they drive slow and don't overtake and don't loose your gap that you worked hard for the whole race. That straight is nice and wide for cars to keep one side slowly on VSC and marshals to push car quickly away and maybe loosing only 1 racing lap.

They have the ability to warn drivers within seconds that there is some fluid spill on one corner of the track. So how difficult can it to tell them of VSC and keep left on a wide straight at 40% less speed?

And BTW, I never complained about Liberty media, I like all the excitement. Just giving an example how when it favours you team, you think its great and when not you complain.

Surely one should spot the similarities to Nascar and Indycar where safety cars are the norm to bunch up the field, introduce pitstops and different strategies to make more entertainment?
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#bringmassiback
 
Jean Claude Vaaldamme said:
Under a VSC they drive slow and don't overtake and don't loose your gap that you worked hard for the whole race. That straight is nice and wide for cars to keep one side slowly on VSC and marshals to push car quickly away and maybe loosing only 1 racing lap.

They have the ability to warn drivers within seconds that there is some fluid spill on one corner of the track. So how difficult can it to tell them of VSC and keep left on a wide straight at 40% less speed?

And BTW, I never complained about Liberty media, I like all the excitement. Just giving an example how when it favours you team, you think its great and when not you complain.

Surely one should spot the similarities to Nascar and Indycar where safety cars are the norm to bunch up the field, introduce pitstops and different strategies to make more entertainment?
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40% less speed down that straight is still well over 120km/h... that is downright fscking deadly to anyone trying to clear the track.
 
Jean Claude Vaaldamme said:
Under a VSC they drive slow and don't overtake and don't loose your gap that you worked hard for the whole race. That straight is nice and wide for cars to keep one side slowly on VSC and marshals to push car quickly away and maybe loosing only 1 racing lap.

They have the ability to warn drivers within seconds that there is some fluid spill on one corner of the track. So how difficult can it to tell them of VSC and keep left on a wide straight at 40% less speed?

And BTW, I never complained about Liberty media, I like all the excitement. Just giving an example how when it favours you team, you think its great and when not you complain.

Surely one should spot the similarities to Nascar and Indycar where safety cars are the norm to bunch up the field, introduce pitstops and different strategies to make more entertainment?
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True, and without the safety car Lewis would've probably ended up in second place, but that shouldn't come at the expense of other driver's safety, and the people who's job it is to keep them safe deemed it necessary.

They've got the experience to know when it's necessary.
 
Stupid Twitter banned me because I said that the idiotic protestors at the formula one race were trying to off themselves.... Apparently you're not allowed to talk about "self harm" even if it refers to acts that took place in the past. :ROFL:

So I appealed their stupid rule... and they came back and said "a violation of their rules definitely took place" :unsure:
 
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LazyLion said:
Stupid Twitter banned me because I said that the idiotic protestors at the formula one race were trying to off themselves.... Apparently you're not allowed to talk about "self harm" even if it refers to acts that took place in the past. :ROFL:

So I appealed their stupid rule... and they came back and said "a violation of their rules definitely took place" :unsure:
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That platform. Pillocks run it. So much harm being done and they don't care.
 
2021 said:
This opens up so many more questions.

Remember, these marshals are not experts in the rules so you have to keep it simple for everyone.
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Sinbad said:
I bet they also had race control in their ears pressuring them to get the mess cleaned up as quickly as possible so that things could get underway again.
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One of the explanations I read - somewhere, was it here? - is that the driver cannot fasten his seatbelt by himself so there was no way for George to get back to the pits safely. Basically game over.
 
LazyLion said:
Stupid Twitter banned me because I said that the idiotic protestors at the formula one race were trying to off themselves.... Apparently you're not allowed to talk about "self harm" even if it refers to acts that took place in the past. :ROFL:

So I appealed their stupid rule... and they came back and said "a violation of their rules definitely took place" :unsure:
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How do you appeal? I got banned on the SA Rugby Mag site because I got gatvol of a certain poster's stupid tweets at opposition teams. Went back 3 months later after taking a break and I was banned.
 
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