F1 2024

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dotdan said:
Mmm interesting. I still think they need to buy out Haas. We don't need another team on the grid imo.
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Imho, F1 need a relegation system or challenge system of some kind to enter the sport if a prospective new team (which can meet the financial/technical requirements/qualifications) wish to compete.
 
quovadis said:
Imho, F1 need a relegation system or challenge system of some kind to enter the sport if a prospective new team (which can meet the financial/technical requirements/qualifications) wish to compete.
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Yeah I was thinking the same thing just now. Give a team 4-5 years and relegate with another team if they don't meet a certain point system or whatever. Haas at least is doing better this year, but realistically will always languish at the bottom. Time to give another team a go.
 
dotdan said:
Yeah I was thinking the same thing just now. Give a team 4-5 years and relegate with another team if they don't meet a certain point system or whatever. Haas at least is doing better this year, but realistically will always languish at the bottom. Time to give another team a go.
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I think F2 should be elevated to a more F1-like specification and F3 be more like F2. I think it’s inevitable for this to happen. To address the current politics introduce an 11th team that is inherited by the winner of F2 but doesn’t participate in rev shares unless it finishes in the top 10. Finish 11th and it’s back to F2. The amount of competition in F2 and the bottom F1 teams might generate quite interesting competition.
 
I actually really like the idea of the religation system.

but I cant see Prema ever wanting to enter F1. they are the Ferrari of F2 after all.
 
Baxteen said:
I actually really like the idea of the religation system.

but I cant see Prema ever wanting to enter F1. they are the Ferrari of F2 after all.
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Then let it be optional or a qualifying factor that can be exercised by the winning team if they win. Even better.
 
I do think a team needs to be in F2 first before entering F1. prove they can run a team propperly.
 
Baxteen said:
I do think a team needs to be in F2 first before entering F1. prove they can run a team properly.
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Almost like the premier league. Except do it every 2-4 years.

But I highly doubt we will ever see something like this. Just too much money, sponsorship deals and politics in this sport.
 
I guess there are few of us left on this list who remember when F1 had 14 teams on the grid (1990's) and the racing was totally unpredictable.

This 10 team franchise may be good for the accountant's but it is not good for the sport.

And I for one would not like to see the likes of Multiple World Champions Williams being relegated to F2.
This is Motor Racing not school Football.

The grid can Accommodate 26 cars that was the original intent of the Qualifying sessions, to weed out the slower cars and then place the faster cars in order.
 
the more I think about it the more I agree. no religation.

13 teams. 20 fastest cars make it to final Quali. and practice sessions.


before Fp1 there is 2 half an hour sessions where 13 cars per session are allowed to do set up.
then there is a warm up and push lap for each car alone on the grid done in reverse order to the last race's session.
so the 20 fastest cars go though. might not be 2 of each team. but if the Ferrari was the fastest this week it goes first in the session Next race so that the 6 cars that have the potential to fall out have the slight advanage of track evolution.

so the points system, as well as the number of cars for free practice does not change, because imagine 26 cars trying to do quali sims around moneco at the same time.....

still only 20 cars start. grid penalties apply on the next race you make it. so that 3 place penalty for Ocon after moneco might have only been served 5 races later if Ocon did not manage to be one of the 20 fastest cars on the grid.


that way you have a potentially much more interesting season where because of rain or track evolution the "top 4" teams might not all qualify for the race because they were slower than back markers. this will lead to more entertaining seasons all around, especially with some of the tracks with insane track evolution. and of course the more consistent teams will be very stable and always place themselves in a position where you are stable and part of the 20 cars that start on the grid by being 10th in the pre practice qualifying.

this makes the teams and the drivers work harder when they are in a run of bad form.
 
Baxteen said:
the more I think about it the more I agree. no religation.

13 teams. 20 fastest cars make it to final Quali. and practice sessions.


before Fp1 there is 2 half an hour sessions where 13 cars per session are allowed to do set up.
then there is a warm up and push lap for each car alone on the grid done in reverse order to the last race's session.
so the 20 fastest cars go though. might not be 2 of each team. but if the Ferrari was the fastest this week it goes first in the session Next race so that the 6 cars that have the potential to fall out have the slight advanage of track evolution.

so the points system, as well as the number of cars for free practice does not change, because imagine 26 cars trying to do quali sims around moneco at the same time.....

still only 20 cars start. grid penalties apply on the next race you make it. so that 3 place penalty for Ocon after moneco might have only been served 5 races later if Ocon did not manage to be one of the 20 fastest cars on the grid.


that way you have a potentially much more interesting season where because of rain or track evolution the "top 4" teams might not all qualify for the race because they were slower than back markers. this will lead to more entertaining seasons all around, especially with some of the tracks with insane track evolution. and of course the more consistent teams will be very stable and always place themselves in a position where you are stable and part of the 20 cars that start on the grid by being 10th in the pre practice qualifying.

this makes the teams and the drivers work harder when they are in a run of bad form.
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I can just imagine crofty trying to explain this to the viewers... F1 thinks having multiple pitstops is too complicated for viewers.

A relegation system makes more sense to me because it removes stagnation from the pool and provides a performance-based entry into the category without too much change.
 
What baffles is me why team owners still bother with headhunting/recruitment for their teams? With the wealth of insight and experience on this forum surely they'd do better hiring an expit?
 
Speedster said:
What baffles is me why team owners still bother with headhunting/recruitment for their teams? With the wealth of insight and experience on this forum surely they'd do better hiring an expit?
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An Ex is a has been and a spert is a drip under pressure so who are you calling an Expert? :unsure: ;)

But don't worry, ChatGTP probably uses this and other similar sites to gain all its F1 knowledge.
One only hopes that teams don't start trusting the AI.
 
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