F1 2024

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thestaggy said:
If, and it is a big 'IF', F1 comes back to South Africa there are two options; Kyalami or street race in Cape Town. Cape Town seems more likely with F1's current obsession with street tracks and due to the fact that it will ultimately be cheaper.

Kyalami is not an F1-grade circuit, and the last time this topic came up they were talking of a figure in the region of R600 million to bring it up to F1 standard (media, corporate and pit facilities are not F1-spec, the main grandstand is laughable, safety is one tier below what F1 requires, service and access roads will be a problem, etc). The owner of the circuit cannot afford this nor was he willing to. There was a consortium led by Ian Schecker who tried to raise the money, but it required government support, which they never got, and the consortium itself could not raise its own fair share. Patrice Motsepe also made a statement that he would fund it, but that was just talk.

A temporary street circuit long-term is a cheaper alternative, which is why F1 is being flooded with them. Once the race is done you pack it up until next year, with only basic permanent fixtures (usually pit boxes/paddock area) remaining in place, which can be largely repurposed for the other ~360 days of the year when the track is not in use.
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The Cape Town street circuit is not F1 grade either. It will take far more than 5 days to set up and take down the temporary setup.
 
cr@zydude said:
The Cape Town street circuit is not F1 grade either. It will take far more than 5 days to set up and take down the temporary setup.
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Mate, what are you smoking? No street circuit can be put up/taken down in 5 days: for example, in SG, work starts about 2 months prior, and it takes about a full month for complete takedown.
 
Naks said:
Mate, what are you smoking? No street circuit can be put up/taken down in 5 days: for example, in SG, work starts about 2 months prior, and it takes about a full month for complete takedown.
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I agree that it can't be done in 5 days. @thestaggy claimed a street circuit has about 360 days per year where equipment can be used for something else.
 
This schedule looks better:
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So ignore friday and watch DSTV Saturday and Sunday evening ...
 
but then you have sky commentary and you give DSTV money.

its like a double whammy.


with F1TV I can watch whenever I want. and I can also change to the British Bias commentary if I want to, I cant understand why anyone would want to but the option is there. plus you are no longer a statistic for DSTV...
 
Baxteen said:
but then you have sky commentary and you give DSTV money.

its like a double whammy.


with F1TV I can watch whenever I want. and I can also change to the British Bias commentary if I want to, I cant understand why anyone would want to but the option is there. plus you are no longer a statistic for DSTV...
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Because we are already paying for DSTV, at least until the old lady passes, so she has her sopies.
And to be honest I prefer the Sky Commentary, British Bias or not, so would still have the same even if I took out an additional subscription to F1TV.
I am happy with my setup and combined with certain web sites I can watch recordings of any session whenever I want with either commentary feed.

So as you asked why anyone would want that option, yes I for one like that option as above..
 
I think you use Sky commentary because you have not actually watched a weekend without it.

I did not think I would mind until I watched a weekend on DSTV and realised just how bad and outdated it is.

no Sam Collins is really the big thing for me. his insights really bring the updates to life and you really get to see so much more on F1TV than on any other means.

but I am glad the early 2000's way of watching things works for you.
 
Wouldn't be the F1 thread without unnecessary jibes. About commentary of all things. Kek. Clowns.
 
Baxteen said:
but I am glad the early 2000's way of watching things works for you.
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Well I have been following F1 since the 60's and watching since to 80's so the BBC coverage is now replaced by the SKY coverage and the 2000's style is actually quite new.

But each to their own. I don't give a damn for social media coverage etc of the new era of F1, so the British style and commentary still suits me just fine thanks.
 
caroper said:
Well I have been following F1 since the 60's and watching since to 80's so the BBC coverage is now replaced by the SKY coverage and the 2000's style is actually quite new.

But each to their own. I don't give a damn for social media coverage etc of the new era of F1, so the British style and commentary still suits me just fine thanks.
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again I am glad it works for you.
and I did not mention any social media coverage at all.

what I am saying is you are missing out on Technical breakdowns of the upgrades brought by the teams in great detail by Sam Collins.
you have been watching for long enought that you know the driver is only as good as the car, and the upgrades they bring is what makes the car better or worse.

and on a weekend where we are all expecting Redbull to bring a big upgrade its going to be possibly the best part of the weekend is seeing the break down on that upgrade, how the font wing changes things, how the changes on the floor edge impacts the rear grip and all those things.
 
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