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'F1 can live without Ferrari'
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Doubt it will be the same without Ferrari!
But in this instance they have my full support. How is a top team supposed to get by on 40 million pounds? I mean for SF, that hardly covers their drivers' salaries.
Yea well sox i am sorry but i think paying kimi 28 million a year is criminal man.
Fuskin insane and i think f1 drivers need to earn less in all honesty. F1 needs to do something to maintain the viewership they have and making f1 about more than ferrari and mclaren can only be good for the sport. Ferrari have donimated f1 along with mclaren and every now and then you get a team who can get in front of the 2 of them but f1 needs a shake up and they need the smaller teams to compete for wins. F1 is not the mclaren/ferrari show, they are only moaning because their advantage of having a massive budget is gone.
Fuskin insane and i think f1 drivers need to earn less in all honesty. F1 needs to do something to maintain the viewership they have and making f1 about more than ferrari and mclaren can only be good for the sport. Ferrari have donimated f1 along with mclaren and every now and then you get a team who can get in front of the 2 of them but f1 needs a shake up and they need the smaller teams to compete for wins. F1 is not the mclaren/ferrari show, they are only moaning because their advantage of having a massive budget is gone.
medicnick83
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Ferrari will probably pull out and then come back after a year or so - they won't come back immediately, they need F1, F1 is like a massive marketing advertising thing for them.
Before the beginning of the current season I would have agreed, however this season we have seen that you give a decent driver a good car, then they will compete.
The proposed system of letting the teams that submit to the cap have certain advantages is just unfair over the teams that have the cash. Imagine if they implemented this cap in any other sport! If you cant afford to be in F1, then just leave.
Well f1 is not about the teams, without viewers you have no money, without money you cannot compete.
Well in all honesty the cars who are doing well in f1 now are only doing so because the bigger budget teams dropped the ball on the design of their cars. This can only be good for f1 and maybe just maybe f1 will still become a sport that is dominated by the drivers and not how good their cars are.
Well in all honesty the cars who are doing well in f1 now are only doing so because the bigger budget teams dropped the ball on the design of their cars. This can only be good for f1 and maybe just maybe f1 will still become a sport that is dominated by the drivers and not how good their cars are.
I'm sorry, but I don't think that is in the best interest of the sport OR viewers. We might as well start watching A1 races.
IMO, F1 is a team sport, and the focus should be on the teams. Much like soccer, rugby, etc. There are different teams, and each has resources, some more than others. Becuase of the current economy, should we be telling Man U to cap their budget becuase Hull cant compete? Nonsense.
Ferrari are no longer a top team. They are a manufacturer.
The 40mil pound cap does not include drivers salaries or marketing. The 40mil cap is simply for the development of the car as well as the salaries of their work force.
The cap is needed so that all the teams are on a level playing field. If the cap was introduced a year earlier, Honda would be leading the championship, and not BrawnGP (as Brawn are running Honda's car).
Ferrari currently get double the amount of cash that any other team would get when they win the constructors. This is because of a deal made between them and the FIA, in order to keep them in the sport. Its a bit unfair how one team can win more, simply because of their legacy. If they leave, It wont effect the current championship as they are yet to have an impact on it with the little points they currently have after 4 races.
They would most likely stop development on their current (slow) car and begin work straight away on next years can in the hopes that they can catch up.
Due to the Cost cap, three new teams (6 cars and 6 drivers) will be joining us next year. When Max said 'F1 can live without Ferrari' he was simply replying to questions about "what if Ferrari leave?".
Did you guys expect the owner of F1 to reply with "F1 will shut down all operations if Ferrari leave"?
The 40mil pound cap does not include drivers salaries or marketing. The 40mil cap is simply for the development of the car as well as the salaries of their work force.
The cap is needed so that all the teams are on a level playing field. If the cap was introduced a year earlier, Honda would be leading the championship, and not BrawnGP (as Brawn are running Honda's car).
Ferrari currently get double the amount of cash that any other team would get when they win the constructors. This is because of a deal made between them and the FIA, in order to keep them in the sport. Its a bit unfair how one team can win more, simply because of their legacy. If they leave, It wont effect the current championship as they are yet to have an impact on it with the little points they currently have after 4 races.
They would most likely stop development on their current (slow) car and begin work straight away on next years can in the hopes that they can catch up.
Due to the Cost cap, three new teams (6 cars and 6 drivers) will be joining us next year. When Max said 'F1 can live without Ferrari' he was simply replying to questions about "what if Ferrari leave?".
Did you guys expect the owner of F1 to reply with "F1 will shut down all operations if Ferrari leave"?
Roman4604
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Well if going by recent experience, would seem the most pivotal person in the team is the designer.
While Schumcher was a brilliant driver, I dont think he could have pull off what he did without Brawn's engineering behind him. Lately Ross seems to have no problem making a Schumacher out of Button. Looks like he is the key, and success follows him.
I think F1 can live without Ferrari, I certainly can . Ferrari and to a lesser degree Maclaren, have had things their way for far too long, I don't doubt their superiority at all, but some sort of standardisation needs to be introduced into F1 to make it more exciting otherwise F1 won't survive, I know in the Schumacher years my interest waned somewhat.
It's like saying to the English Premier League teams, okay, we're introducing a cap on how many "foreign" players you can have. If a team objects and wants to leave the league, fine, their loss.
Ferrari I don't think will pull out, they have too much vested in F1 and will lose a whole lot more for not being part of it.
. Ferrari and to a lesser degree Maclaren, have had things their way for far too long, I don't doubt their superiority at all, but some sort of standardisation needs to be introduced into F1 to make it more exciting otherwise F1 won't survive, I know in the Schumacher years my interest waned somewhat.It's like saying to the English Premier League teams, okay, we're introducing a cap on how many "foreign" players you can have. If a team objects and wants to leave the league, fine, their loss.
Ferrari I don't think will pull out, they have too much vested in F1 and will lose a whole lot more for not being part of it.
[OUPA]MrNutz
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F1 on budget cap = A1 GP
F1 has more buzz to it than all other racing sports. I think the current regulations should be used to atleast 2 more years. The Cost cap might help a little, as long as its not too low.
The teams like williams and force india need to make profit, and they cant do that as long as they are spending everything they make simply to keep up with the guys with unlimited cash flow.
Standardizing too much is a huge problem, as F1 is more about the technology, than the drivers. If all the cars are the same, then it will be exactly the same as all other racing formulas.
The teams like williams and force india need to make profit, and they cant do that as long as they are spending everything they make simply to keep up with the guys with unlimited cash flow.
Standardizing too much is a huge problem, as F1 is more about the technology, than the drivers. If all the cars are the same, then it will be exactly the same as all other racing formulas.