F1 - General discussion and 2017

[Dave]

There already is, it is called the FIA.

I was meaning more physical, like his nearest competitors are only allowed 50kg of fuel for the race or have to have an air brake on the rear wing controlled from the Ferrari pit wall

 

[Willie Trombone]

Pic 3 of Sabre Wolf's post shows the lights out and the car hasn't moved, that alone should be enough (for everyone but the whining child that Vettel has become).

It moved, but we're talking about less than a 100th of a degree rotation on the wheel... Their sensors couldn't pick it up, it was that small.

 

[Genisys]

He probably wants a handicap system brought in for all non-Ferrari cars.

McLaren already has this implemented. It's called a Honda engine.

 

[Polish]

F1 week

 

[Fox1]

Ricciardo also complained about Bottas "jumped start". Guess he is heading to Ferrari next season

http://www.planetf1.com/news/vettel-ricciardo-still-sceptical-of-bottas-start/

 

[Wall]

McLaren already has this implemented. It's called a Honda engine.

 

[kang]

Ric needs to stop with the shoe thing for a podium finish. He should only do it when he wins.

 

[caroper]

Ric needs to stop with the shoe thing for a podium finish. He should only do it when he wins.

He wasn't going to do it, it was that Brundle Idiot who asked him to, just so that he could pretend (he only sipped it) he had done a shoey and grab the attention.

 

[Zyraz]

He wasn't going to do it, it was that Brundle Idiot who asked him to, just so that he could pretend (he only sipped it) he had done a shoey and grab the attention.

Brundle wanted the shoe for a Charity auction , so had good intentions at heart .

 

[Willie Trombone]

Ric needs to stop with the shoe thing for a podium finish. He should only do it when he wins.

Never, every driver should have a signature celebration. Ricciardio just needs a winning car now and he'll have athlete's mouth by the end of the season

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/130639/fia-explains-why-bottas-start-was-legal

Valtteri Bottas was cleared of jumping the start at the Austrian Grand Prix because any movement his car made before the lights went out was within tolerance limits allowed, the FIA has revealed.

The FIA has explained, however, that some movement before the lights go out is allowed because of the need occasionally for drivers to make adjustments to their clutch in those crucial moments before the start.

Such a system has been in place for 20 years and has been accepted by all competitors.

An FIA spokesman said that any movement observed on Bottas' car between the five lights being on and them going out was within this allowed limit - which is why the Finn was not deemed to have done anything wrong.

"In today's instance, Valtteri Bottas did not exceed this (very small) limit before the start was given," said the spokesman.

"Simply put: he made an exceptionally accurate and fortuitous judgement call, anticipating the moment the lights went out with great precision. Any movement prior to the moment the lights went out was within the tolerances allowed."

Remember, it really matters little if he did or didn't, it's whether the FIA deems he did or didn't that counts.

 

[B@rrels]

F1 London Live.... www.formula1.com/en/latest/features/2017/7/video--f1-live-london---watch-live-now.html

 

[Fox1]

Hamilton chose to be on holiday instead of attending what was a brilliant event.

 

[thestaggy]

I'm bored at work.

How the F1 championship would look if points were awarded based on pit-stops;

DRIVERS
1 Massa Williams 117
2 Ricciardo Red Bull 109
3 Bottas Mercedes 100
4 Stroll Williams 96
5 Vettel Ferrari 88
6 Hamilton Mercedes 85
7 Sainz Toro Rosso 70
8 Perez Force India 57
9 Verstappen Red Bull 47
10 Ocon Force India 44
11 Magnussen Haas 22
12 Vandoorne McLaren 18
13 Kvyat Toro Rosso 16
14 Grosjean Haas 12
15 Raikkonen Ferrari 10
16 Button McLaren 8
17 Alonso McLaren 3
18 Ericsson Sauber 1

CONSTRUCTORS
1 Williams 213
2 Mercedes 185
3 Red Bull 156
4 Force India 101
5 Ferrari 98
6 Toro Rosso 86
7 Haas 34
8 McLaren 29
9 Sauber 1

https://www.formula1.com/en/championship/awards/dhl-fastest-pit-stop-2017.html

Williams, Mercedes and Force India seem like the only teams that can provide their cars with consistent, equal service. Quite a substantial difference at Ferrari as Vettel routinely receives better service.

There is quite a difference at Red Bull as well, but that could be skewed by Verstappen's recent string of early showers.

 

[Agent_Smith]

^^Interesting. To be fair to McLaren though, they usually don't last long enough in the race to make it to the first round of pitstops

 

[thestaggy]

^^Interesting. To be fair to McLaren though, they usually don't last long enough in the race to make it to the first round of pitstops

Good observation as well.

Would it be fair to assume that like Williams, while their cars are not the best (Williams and McLaren) the organisations have maintained their high levels of professionalism and efficiency?

 

[sox63]

Hamilton chose to be on holiday instead of attending what was a brilliant event.

One of the main reasons he moved from Mclaren was to be able to turn down promotional events if and when he wants.

 

[Polish]

Kubica completes second Renault test

https://www.pitpass.com/59612/Kubica-completes-second-Renault-test

i think the writing on the wall is becoming more visible here

 

[Willie Trombone]

^Get a move on already Renault!
I do feel sorry for him having to go to Renault, but if it gets him a good ride in the next 2 years, kudos!

 

[Dave]

Some info for Silverstone GP

Silverstone Circuit
Lap length 5.891km (3.66 miles)
Race laps 52
Race distance 306.332km (190.346 miles)
Pole position Left-hand side of the track
Lap record* 1’30.874 (Fernando Alonso, 2010)
Fastest lap 1’29.243 (Lewis Hamilton, 2016, qualifying two)
Maximum speed 329.5kph (204.742 mph)
DRS zone/s (race) Pit straight and Hangar straight
Distance from grid to turn one 296m
Full throttle 70%
Longest flat-out section 1034m
Downforce level High
Gear changes per lap 40
Fuel use per lap 2.8kg
Time penalty per lap of fuel 0.112s

UK Times
Friday 14th July 2017
British Grand Prix Free Practice 1: 9:00-10:30 (UK time: 9:00-10:30)
British Grand Prix Free Practice 2: 13:00-14:30 (UK time: 13:00-14:30)
Saturday 15th July 2017
British Grand Prix Free Practice 3: 10:00-11:00 (UK time: 10:00-11:00)
British Grand Prix Qualifying: 13:00 (UK time: 13:00)
Sunday 16th July 2017
British Grand Prix: 13:00 (UK time: 13:00)



Tyres for the weekend

 

[Agent_Smith]

Looking forward to seeing these new cars on this track. The high speed switchbacks through the Maggots/Becketts/Chapel complex as well as the right hander Copse should be a sight to behold.