Feeling a bit duped

[Jhbgirl]

I have an issue with using codeine medicine for headaches and migraines and it has somewhat spiraled out of control and now I get headaches just as a result of not taking 12 or so headache pills a day. I've had a headache since Sunday and yesterday the dr gave me a migraine injection but the pain returned a few hours later.

My husband went to see our dr this morning on his own to ask what we can do about the codeine thing and the dr said we have to go to a certain Life Health care hospital for a consultation. So we arrived there and they wanted to practically lock me up. Started admitting me, wanting to take my cellphone etc etc. I didn't even have a bag packed and my husband really had to fight with them to cancel the admittance. They only let you see a dr when you are a patient there it seems. My husband called our GP to find out what the heck is going on and the GP admitted he wrote an admittance script thing and didn't tell him because I would not have gone otherwise.

So now I am back at home without the help I need because they sprung this all on me so suddenly and treated me like a heroin addict. The sad part is I probably would have gone had I had some time to get use to the idea and restrictions. Also the med aid only pays 70% if you don't have a prior 72 hour agreement from them. So financially we would have also have been raped pfft.

 

[Fudzy]

Sounds like you have a dependency problem which needs to be sorted out. Bit odd that the doctor tried to sneak this past you, have you seen him about it before?

 

[Jhbgirl]

Yeah I've been on migraine medication before but I have found nothing is as effective as Adcodols or Tensodols. Also the prescribed meds were like R500 (Tramacet or Zomig) and the preventative meds (Sibelium) were also in that region and as I said they didn't help as much.

 

[Kornhub]

It possibly is the best way to get clean?

 

[SoulTax]

Ye, I **** on my wife whenever she pulls out a pain killer for headaches. I know that headaches and Migraines are different things. But pain killers are for bad period pains, or broken bones, or root canals or post opp pain. The more you rely on pain killers for things that your body should naturally be able to deal with, the worse your body gets at handling that pain.

Honestly JHBgirl, do your own research into which place you should go to for this dependency issue. If it turns out to be the same place as your doctor tried to send you. Then go to him/her, or another doctor if you feel that the trust has been broken enough, and ask for an admittance letter to the one of your choosing. Notify med aid and go.

The alternative is to simply try to stop taking any pain killers and take some time off work. Deal with the pain on your own and see how you manage it.

 

[Fudzy]

Yeah I've been on migraine medication before but I have found nothing is as effective as Adcodols or Tensodols. Also the prescribed meds were like R500 (Tramacet or Zomig) and the preventative meds (Sibelium) were also in that region and as I said they didn't help as much.

Adcodols/Tensodols same thing aren't they? The doctor gave me Tramacet for my cluster headaches, didn't really touch sides unfortunately What you described is also the main reason I avoided the opiate relief route and took the painful route of just riding it out.

 

[Fudzy]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codeine#Withdrawal_and_dependence

 

[ant_man]

Yeah I've been on migraine medication before but I have found nothing is as effective as Adcodols or Tensodols. Also the prescribed meds were like R500 (Tramacet or Zomig) and the preventative meds (Sibelium) were also in that region and as I said they didn't help as much.

That stuff is poison
Until a year ago, I was taking 20 - 30 per day.
I landed up in hospital, burst ulcer due to that stuff chewing away at my stomach lining

I stopped taking them and then got hooked on GrandPa, which is as bad.

I weaned myself off as I again landed in Hospital, burst ulcer

The only way to stop, is cold Turkey, its the worst feeling ever as you feel like your head is about to explode, but its the only way.

 

[Kornhub]

That stuff is poison
Until a year ago, I was taking 20 - 30 per day.
I landed up in hospital, burst ulcer due to that stuff chewing away at my stomach lining

I stopped taking them and then got hooked on GrandPa, which is as bad.

I weaned myself off as I again landed in Hospital, burst ulcer

The only way to stop, is cold Turkey, its the worst feeling ever as you feel like your head is about to explode, but its the only way.

 

[Ancalagon]

That stuff is poison
Until a year ago, I was taking 20 - 30 per day.
I landed up in hospital, burst ulcer due to that stuff chewing away at my stomach lining

I stopped taking them and then got hooked on GrandPa, which is as bad.

I weaned myself off as I again landed in Hospital, burst ulcer

The only way to stop, is cold Turkey, its the worst feeling ever as you feel like your head is about to explode, but its the only way.

How can you get addicted to Grandpa? Its just paracetamol and aspirin, isnt it? No Codeine.

 

[AstroTurf]

More addictive than heroin and practically over the counter in South Africa.

Go figure :/

 

[Kornhub]

How can you get addicted to Grandpa? Its just paracetamol and aspirin, isnt it? No Codeine.

Someone in my family is addicted to painkillers with paracetamol..not sure if it is that that they are actually addicted to.

 

[Jhbgirl]

The only way to stop, is cold Turkey, its the worst feeling ever as you feel like your head is about to explode, but its the only way.

That's the plan now.

 

[Datura]

I weaned myself off as I again landed in Hospital, burst ulcer

As I read the Grandpa bit I was thinking, "Idiots have no idea just HOW bad that stuff is!" and then I got to the quoted bit. I have been hospitalised twice for the exact same reason. First time I almost died from blood loss with my Haemoglobin count dropping just below 4.

@OP, if the doc thinks you need help, you probably do. The way he went around trying to get it for you wasn't very professional.

 

[Jhbgirl]

It possibly is the best way to get clean?

Why do I need to only see my family twice a week and have my cellphone confiscated for this? It's not related to each other at all. I can't cope without my family so locking me away from them would make the stress 20x worse and the headaches unbearable. And some random Dr there that tried to convince me to stay told me they won't give me a pain killer anyway and I won't see a Dr until tmrw and what is another day with a migraine when I've had it for days already anyway. Really comforting stuff.

 

[copacetic]

Yeah I've been on migraine medication before but I have found nothing is as effective as Adcodols or Tensodols. Also the prescribed meds were like R500 (Tramacet or Zomig) and the preventative meds (Sibelium) were also in that region and as I said they didn't help as much.

12 Adco-Dols in a day is a ****load of Paracetamol.

 

[Kornhub]

Why do I need to only see my family twice a week and have my cellphone confiscated for this? It's not related to each other at all. I can't cope without my family so locking me away from them would make the stress 20x worse and the headaches unbearable. And some random Dr there that tried to convince me to stay told me they won't give me a pain killer anyway and I won't see a Dr until tmrw and what is another day with a migraine when I've had it for days already anyway. Really comforting stuff.

lol I just asked if it was the best way.

 

[ant_man]

How can you get addicted to Grandpa? Its just paracetamol and aspirin, isnt it? No Codeine.

I got addicted due to it taking away the phantom headaches once I stopped taking the Adcodol.

That's the plan now.

That is the only way.
Its going to be hard, but I am thinking of you.
Its pure hell but you can do it.
I take Panado's now and it does help me a bit.

As I read the Grandpa bit I was thinking, "Idiots have no idea just HOW bad that stuff is!" and then I got to the quoted bit. I have been hospitalised twice for the exact same reason. First time I almost died from blood loss with my Haemoglobin count dropping just below 4.

@OP, if the doc thinks you need help, you probably do. The way he went around trying to get it for you wasn't very professional.

Holy Cr#p that is low, I think mine was a little higher.
I didn't realize what was happening, the one minute I was walking around and the next I couldn't even get out of bed
Worst experience ever.

 

[copacetic]

OP, I've been to rehab before, and it's never going to work if you get put there without prior warning, and against your will.

Separating people from the outside is a necessary part of the procedure, obviously, otherwise they would have a source of whatever they are wanting to take.

Seems a moot point though, if you are able to deal with this on your own.

Adco-Dol is real ****ty stuff, I hope you can get through this!

The toxic dose of paracetamol is highly variable. In general the recommended maximum daily dose for healthy adults is 4 grams. Higher doses lead to increasing risk of toxicity. In adults, single doses above 10 grams or 200 mg/kg of bodyweight, whichever is lower, have a reasonable likelihood of causing toxicity.[4][5] Toxicity can also occur when multiple smaller doses within 24 hours exceeds these levels.[5] Following a normal dose of 1 gram of paracetamol four times a day for two weeks, patients can expect an increase in alanine transaminase in their liver to typically about three times the normal value.[6] It is unlikely that this dose would lead to liver failure.[7] Studies have shown significant hepatotoxicity is uncommon in patients who have taken greater than normal doses over 3 to 4 days.[8] In adults, a dose of 6 grams a day over the preceding 48 hours could potentially lead to toxicity,[5] while in children acute doses above 200 mg/kg could potentially cause toxicity.[9] Acute paracetamol overdose in children rarely causes illness or death, and it is very uncommon for children to have levels that require treatment, with chronic larger-than-normal doses being the major cause of toxicity in children.[5] Intravenous doses should be smaller than those taken orally, all other things being equal.[10]

In rare individuals, paracetamol toxicity can result from normal use.[11] This may be due to individual ("idiosyncratic") differences in the expression and activity of certain enzymes in one of the metabolic pathways that handle paracetamol (see paracetamol's metabolism).

Those 12 in a day are already putting into the danger zone, be aware.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracetamol_toxicity

 

[The_Unbeliever]

@JHBGirl - I believe you can do it!

Thinking of you Keep well and take care!