Fibre in Strand

[dyanamo]

Looks like the whole of Strand North is set to be completed by April next year!
https://www.frogfootfibre.com/frogfoot/myaccount/home/frogfoot/coverage.jsp

 

[blaaislaai]

It seems like openserve started with their fibre rollout in Altena road ( from police station up until the Spar robots)

 

[SaltyCrak]

Pity, I'm on the wrong side of broadway, but hopefully it's a sign of things to come .

 

[BetaProject]

Anyone here living along Gordon's Bay Road? I have 3 fibre providers going past my house, and two more following soon, to provide services in GBay. I would like to get the people along the route (between Greenways and Gordon's Bay) signed up with at least one of these providers to prod them into providing fibre to us.

 

[blaaislaai]

Anyone here living along Gordon's Bay Road? I have 3 fibre providers going past my house, and two more following soon, to provide services in GBay. I would like to get the people along the route (between Greenways and Gordon's Bay) signed up with at least one of these providers to prod them into providing fibre to us.

I don't live closeby, but do you perhaps have the names of those providers?

 

[BetaProject]

I don't live closeby, but do you perhaps have the names of those providers?

There are manholes from DFA and MTN at the corner of my property, Octotel and Frogfoot both show that their route from Strand to Gordon's bay go past my house, and there is a manhole labeled City Of Cape Town Fibre, or some such thing.

DFA (via SADV), Octotel and Frogfoot are the best bets. SADV told me they would provide me with flyers to distribute a couple of months ago, but didn't get back to me. I am looking at setting up my own flyers as soon as I can.

 

[hypermancool]

Thought I'd occupy this thread again and let you know that the first part of strand, beside Beach Road, just went live. Go check on Frogfoot's website.

 

[BetaProject]

I saw Octotel's coverage map has been updated to include the area along Gordon's Bay road. They are apparently busy trenching. Problem is, they are not trenching on my side of the road...

I am a few meters outside the coverage area, and they are not responding to my queries on whether there are any plans to expand to my side. The area on the ocean side of Gordon's Bay Road has only a few streets, with maybe 8 or so houses per street, so even though fibre goes right past our houses, it seems it makes more sense for them to extend the fibre to the other side of the road, with denser housing, and ignore us.

Can't say I blame them, from a business perspective, but hell man!

 

[Stormer12]

Looks like Fibre is coming. Octotel & Frogfoot in the mix

Got a letter from Frogfoot today in my postbox; they will start digging in my road in the coming weeks.

I'm close to Cinnamon Square Spar.

 

[BetaProject]

You lucky bugger. I finally got a response from Octotel. Basically, "Sorry, we don't have fibre on your side of the road." Which I knew already.

 

[hypermancool]

Our live date has also been delayed for the third time by Frogfoot, until 20 Feb. Geuss we'll have to wait and see if they deliver.

 

[portcullis]

Our first clients on Frogfoot Strand have been on line long enough for me to comment.

RADIUS authentication is done against one of our routers located in Teraco Rondebosch.

First hop ping times are much better than De Zalze.

It's early days and things could change once the Frogfoot backhaul to Rondebosch starts filling up, but at this point this is a lovely layer 2 network to provide service on.

SAIX DNS

[techs@Mikrotik] > tool trace 196.25.1.1
# ADDRESS LOSS SENT LAST AVG BEST WORST
1 154.66.88.34 0% 46 2.1ms 2.2 1.8 10.3
2 154.66.88.33 0% 46 2ms 2.1 1.9 5.7
3 154.66.88.190 0% 46 2ms 2.2 1.9 9.3
4 196.25.103.101 0% 46 3ms 2.7 2.5 3.1
5 196.43.3.2 0% 46 3.1ms 8 2.9 222.9
6 196.25.1.1 0% 46 3ms 3 2.7 5.3

Google

[techs@Mikrotik] > tool trace www.google.com
# ADDRESS LOSS SENT LAST AVG BEST WORST
1 2c0f:f470:3:5::2 0% 47 2.4ms 2.4 2 9
2 2c0f:f470:3:5::1 0% 47 2.5ms 2.5 2.3 2.8
3 2c0f:f470::1 0% 47 2.5ms 2.5 2.1 5.1
4 2c0f:f470:0:3d::2 0% 47 22.2ms 22.9 22.1 46.7
5 2001:43f8:1f0::41 0% 47 35.7ms 24.2 21.9 76
6 2001:4860:0:1::18b 0% 47 22.2ms 22.8 22 32.4
7 2c0f:fb50:4002:802::2004 0% 47 22.3ms 23.8 21.8 57.5

BBC London

[techs@Mikrotik] > tool trace news.bbc.co.uk
# ADDRESS LOSS SENT LAST AVG BEST WORST
1 154.66.88.34 0% 40 1.9ms 1.9 1.8 2.5
2 154.66.88.33 0% 40 1.9ms 2.2 1.5 8.2
3 154.66.88.190 0% 40 2.1ms 2.3 1.9 9.1
4 195.66.224.103 0% 40 143.3ms 143.4 142.6 148.9
5 100% 40 timeout
6 100% 39 timeout
7 132.185.254.109 0% 39 143.2ms 143.7 142.8 163.2
8 132.185.255.148 0% 39 143.5ms 144.2 143.4 151.1
9 212.58.244.57 0% 39 143.3ms 144 142.7 170.9

Comcast Miami

[techs@Mikrotik] > tool trace 68.86.82.153
# ADDRESS LOSS SENT LAST AVG BEST WORST
1 154.66.88.34 0% 27 2ms 2 1.8 2.3
2 154.66.88.33 0% 27 1.9ms 2 1.8 2.3
3 154.66.88.190 0% 27 2ms 2.2 1.9 6
4 102.130.64.5 0% 27 2.1ms 2.5 2 4.4
5 197.149.151.194 0% 27 37.1ms 38.6 36.9 49
6 170.238.232.149 22.. 27 99.9ms 101.6 97.6 174.3
7 170.238.232.37 0% 27 161ms 161.3 160.7 168.8
8 170.238.232.9 0% 27 193.2ms 162.1 160.2 193.2
9 62.115.162.36 0% 27 284ms 284.2 283.8 285.6
10 62.115.118.163 0% 27 278.9ms 279.1 278.7 281.4
11 50.248.117.197 0% 26 162.3ms 162.7 162.3 166.9
12 68.86.82.153 0% 26 163.4ms 164.7 162.8 180.4

 

[blaaislaai]

@portcullis

Any ideas when this part of Strand will get fibre? Middle part of the map, Altena road and surroundings
My complex's trustees have recently conducted a survey for fibre rollout ( Situated in Altena Road) and we managed to get 40-50+ positive reactions for installation

 

[hypermancool]

Our first clients on Frogfoot Strand have been on line long enough for me to comment.

RADIUS authentication is done against one of our routers located in Teraco Rondebosch.

First hop ping times are much better than De Zalze.

It's early days and things could change once the Frogfoot backhaul to Rondebosch starts filling up, but at this point this is a lovely layer 2 network to provide service on.

SAIX DNS



Google



BBC London



Comcast Miami

I'm not that much of a techie, but does this mean that Frogfoot Strand isn't as congested? If not what does it mean and will I get good speeds all around with basically any ISP?

 

[portcullis]

I'm not that much of a techie, but does this mean that Frogfoot Strand isn't as congested? If not what does it mean and will I get good speeds all around with basically any ISP?

There are two factors you need to

@portcullis
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Any ideas when this part of Strand will get fibre? Middle part of the map, Altena road and surroundings
My complex's trustees have recently conducted a survey for fibre rollout ( Situated in Altena Road) and we managed to get 40-50+ positive reactions for installation

Octotel are digging to freestanding houses in some parts of Altena Rd.

We have a fibre POP on the roof of the Strand hospital and are doing wireless specifically to those estates as we've been knocking on the trustees' door for the past 8 years without luck. It's ironic that the fibre that we dug in runs past those Altena complexes to reach the POP, but we have a policy of not paying bribes to get into places. That is why we only have our own FTTH service in 30 precincts.

 

[hypermancool]

There are two factors you need to


Octotel are digging to freestanding houses in some parts of Altena Rd.

We have a fibre POP on the roof of the Strand hospital and are doing wireless specifically to those estates as we've been knocking on the trustees' door for the past 8 years without luck. It's ironic that the fibre that we dug in runs past those Altena complexes to reach the POP, but we have a policy of not paying bribes to get into places. That is why we only have our own FTTH service in 30 precincts.

Not sure what you meant by "two factors you need to"

 

[portcullis]

I'm not that much of a techie, but does this mean that Frogfoot Strand isn't as congested? If not what does it mean and will I get good speeds all around with basically any ISP?

There are three variables:

1. Frogfoot's backhaul from Strand to their handover points. In this case that'll be either Teraco Rondebosch or the IS data centre. There's plenty of capacity here.
2. ISP's interconnect speed to Frogfoot. This can be 1Gb, 10Gb, 40Gb or 100Gb. Frogfoot charge a monthly NNI fee for this. This could be the first point of congestion. 10 x 100Mb connections downloading at the same time on a 1G NNI will result in latency for all other users. Think of this as the old latency between the DSLAM and SAIX Bellville on ADSL.
3. The ISP. Not all ISPs are created equal. Some ISPs have ASNs, buy IP transit and connect into places like London Internet Exchange. Others just buy bandwidth from a traffic provider and that's the end of that. This is a very good place to compare ISP networks. https://bgp.he.net/country/ZA

 

[portcullis]

Not sure what you meant by "two factors you need to"

User error on my part. Apologies.

 

[hypermancool]

User error on my part. Apologies.

Thanks, no problem. Please check DM

 

[Diabolix]

There are two factors you need to


Octotel are digging to freestanding houses in some parts of Altena Rd.

We have a fibre POP on the roof of the Strand hospital and are doing wireless specifically to those estates as we've been knocking on the trustees' door for the past 8 years without luck. It's ironic that the fibre that we dug in runs past those Altena complexes to reach the POP, but we have a policy of not paying bribes to get into places. That is why we only have our own FTTH service in 30 precincts.

Is your network open access yet? As precincts are starting to decline offers of network providers that are trying to retain their monopoly in certain areas.