Fibre: Secunda Community

[Alex$The$Alien]

There I fixed it


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This makes more sense. Understandable now. So a one year contract will just about half your construction fee. And a 2 year will waive it completely, month to month will be R3600. Copy that. Rodger Rodger

Now that I think about it logically It does make sense because if you go month to month. And pay R1500 for the construction. And leave within 2 or 3 months 123Net may lose a bit of moola.

 

[CarbonZA]

Really?

 

[Alex$The$Alien]

Really?

Ja boet wat dink jy kos n meter hollow optic fibre cable.. haibo babba

 

[CarbonZA]

Really really? Dat jy regtig nie verstaan het nie??

 

[PJ Kleinsmidt]

for all the questions regarding routers

http://www.techradar.com/news/netwo...router-9-top-wireless-routers-on-test-1090523

Thanks for that, will @123net be selling suitable routers as well or should we facilitate them ourselves? Secondly can we get these routers in Secunda if they do not?

 

[PJ Kleinsmidt]

me 2

 

[PJ Kleinsmidt]

what does a static IP addy mean ? can we only use one computer?? im not tech savvy

 

[PJ Kleinsmidt]

This answers my posts of today and routers thank you, 24 month contract and 20mb fibre access requested

 

[quantic]

@ alex I explained all this to you this morning in the smoking hut.

I am just going the safe route and getting the free basic internet , and then upgrade when I feel comfy.

 

[PJ Kleinsmidt]

Hi Henry.de.kock,

The routers we offer are MikroTik routers. We use them ourselves and they work really well

What is the range on your routers

 

[PJ Kleinsmidt]

You might want to look at the 8Mbps line rental option that Telkom just released until 123net/other provider rolls out.

yeah not in my area, we only set for 2mb but im not giving mweb more money than what they deserve

 

[ripper7802]

@Kalin

Thank you for the contracts being sent out yesterday, but I have a few concerns, as what is stated in the contract isn't what was said in the meeting we had with Kalin in Secunda or as advertised on 123net.co.za

1: The addition of R3 600 construction fee for EVERY package if you go for the month-to-month option was never part of any discussions or prices given? This isn't even shown like that on the 123Net website, which now makes the packages more expensive than initially advertised. It was initially only for the Free Basic Internet package, and is the R3 600 then also allowed to be divided into R300 per month like the Free Basic Internet package?

2: 5.2 - "The Subscriber acknowledges that installation is subject to the prior payment of the construction fee corresponding to the Service chosen by the Subscriber."
What was said in the meeting in Secunda is that you won't need to pay anything upfront, and you will only start paying when you are connected and have a service with 123Net?

3: 17.3 - "Notwithstanding any provision of this Agreement, it is hereby agreed that in the event of a sale of the Premises or any portion thereof by the Subscriber, this Agreement will continue uninterrupted in respect of the Premises or such portion until the expiration thereof, including any renewal periods as contemplated above."

This is just a hypethetical in the case of somebody needing to sell their home unexpectedly. If you signed a 24 month contract and 6 months or a year down the line (as an example), you need to sell and move for work, or whatever reason. Could you cancel your contract with 123Net (if you are moving to an area not covered by 123Net yet), pay the contruction fee as a penalty, and then ask 123Net to remove their equipment if the new owners don't want it?

4: 18.2 - "Subject to clauses 19.2 to 19.4"
There is only a 19.2 no 19.3 or 19.4??
And 18.3 There isn't a 19.1.1 either?

Look, I understand why most of these are in the Terms and Conditions contract that was sent out. 123Net just wants to cover their own ass, but some of these points contradict what was discussed in the meeting.

 

[CarbonZA]

Ag nee. Nou gaan elkeen piss en moan..

 

[quantic]

@Kalin

Thank you for the contracts being sent out yesterday, but I have a few concerns, as what is stated in the contract isn't what was said in the meeting we had with Kalin in

Secunda or as advertised on 123net.co.za

1: The addition of R3 600 construction fee for EVERY package if you go for the month-to-month option was never part of any discussions or prices given? This isn't even

shown like that on the 123Net website, which now makes the packages more expensive than initially advertised. It was initially only for the Free Basic Internet package,

and is the R3 600 then also allowed to be divided into R300 per month like the Free Basic Internet package?

What are you smoking ? all of the info is on their front page of their website , I made a screen shot just in case you visted the wrong website?

It clearly shows you the cost per month and the contraction fee , of R1500 and at the bottom a 1 year contract time , which is the same as the contract you got yesterday , a 2 year contract as per the website states that the contraction fee will be wavered, no contract means R3600 contraction fee? Yes this was not highlighted or mentioned but its kind of expected when looking at the pricing. And its definitely not more expensive than initially advertised I have no idea where you made that assumption , if you though there is no contraction fee on a month to month basis then yea dude good luck in life.

No contract means R3600
1 year contract means R1500
2 year contract means R0

I deducted that information on day 1 its obvious , welcome to the business world , even the free basic internet has a construction fee of R3600 , but you can pay it off over 12 months because the service is FREE.

Rest of the terms and conditions is normal and you will find the exact same thing in a cell phone contract.

 

[ripper7802]

I understand the R1 500 construction fee for the contracts, but it didn't say R3 600 for month to month? Only on the Free Internet package. Show me on your print screen where it says that no contract means R3 600??

 

[Henry.de.kock]

Do we need 2 witnesses or will one be enough? Anybody know of good routers to compare for the fibre?

 

[CarbonZA]

Fact is if you want month to month you are going to pay the R3600 construction fee.

Whether it is on the Website or not.

Why is this so hard to grasp?

 

[mpdjhb]

I understand the R1 500 construction fee for the contracts, but it didn't say R3 600 for month to month? Only on the Free Internet package. Show me on your print screen where it says that no contract means R3 600??

Actually - there is no option for no contract - it seems like they are offering it for those who want it - I do not see anything "devious" in this. Makes perfect sense.

 

[quantic]

I understand the R1 500 construction fee for the contracts, but it didn't say R3 600 for month to month? Only on the Free Internet package. Show me on your print screen where it says that no contract means R3 600??

Okay I can clearly see you are one of those people ,moving along.

@Henry you don't need to buy a special routers for fibre, there will be a "box" installed at your home with a lan port which you connect to a router or a switch/hub. The only thing you might want to look out for in your router and service you are buying is that if you want to utilise your 1 gig local only connection is that your route or switch needs to have a 1 gig local network card , if you want to use wifi with the 1 gig fibre line you are going to pay a lot for a wifi router with 1 gig wfi capability.

 

[Alex$The$Alien]

Thanks for that, will @123net be selling suitable routers as well or should we facilitate them ourselves? Secondly can we get these routers in Secunda if they do not?

These routers are not cheap though. They are mostly high performance AC routers. And you will need a wireless AC network card too in order to facilitate high bandwidth. . I would rather search for a normal 300N router with gigabit ethernet ports.. if I can find one. If you're not going for the gigabit 10 20 30 packages don't fork out R3000 for a router