Firefox not a particularly great browswer

[FoXtroT]

With Firefox & tabgroupsmanager I have over 200 tabs in my browser at all times, some less often used groups snoozed so they don't chow memory. My ff footprint hovers between 1 & 2 gig

200?!

But why?

 

[Johnatan56]

200?!

But why?

My question is how he's at less than 3GB of RAM, it must dump it to disc/load on select.

 

[Bryn]

I switched to Chrome quite recently, mostly because text is smoother and some of my most frequented websites seem to load faster.

Feeder.co is my new RSS solution and works great in Chrome. I still have to use Firefox occasionally for FlashGot, which sends downloads to a download manager of your choice. I can't believe this still isn't an option in Chrome.

 

[Swa]

I currently have ~30 tabs open though and not crashing....
Erm, haven't they always? Not sure what you mean by crash entire history is gone, both FF and Chrome have a reopen last browsing session and a history tab (ctrl-shift-h on FF, not sure with Chrome right now).
Both browsers have a search function within the downloads tabs. On crash that the file disappears, do you mean that it isn't deleted? Chrome makes a temp file which is the download file and another place-holder file that gets replaced with the temp file on download completion. Not sure with FF (don't really pay attention).

And really not sure what you mean by can't find the correct files. Do you want to save to specific location? They both do that, you probably just ticked to remember previous setting whereby it always downloads to that place.

I've been caught by both where the system crashed and all my tabs were gone. Opera (pre Chropera) would at least open what it could read and it's easy to make backups besides the default backup. Also other browsers that use the engines. Haven't managed to really figure out which files store the data as for some reason when I restore individual files it starts with a clean session. The only solution is to backup the entire folder.

Can't comprehend how in this age there's no browser that's configurable, fault tolerant and just works without any issues.

 

[grok]

My question is how he's at less than 3GB of RAM, it must dump it to disc/load on select.

Tabgroupsmanager can hibernate tabs, keeping the footprint smaller. Reason why is its like bookmarks, but right there when I need them.

 

[Solitude]

I'm the opposite. I moved from Chrome to Firefox a long time ago at home and recently I ditched Chrome at work too. I've also been using Vivaldi a bit.

 

[semaphore]

I've been caught by both where the system crashed and all my tabs were gone.

I've caused my machine to BSOD multiple times. Tabs always restore with chrome.

Opera (pre Chropera) would at least open what it could read and it's easy to make backups besides the default backup.

What do you mean by backup? Backup what?

Haven't managed to really figure out which files store the data as for some reason when I restore individual files it starts with a clean session. The only solution is to backup the entire folder.

What exactly are you trying to restore?

Can't comprehend how in this age there's no browser that's configurable, fault tolerant and just works without any issues.

Write one?

 

[MickZA]

Chrome not a particularly great browser

Why?

... it did something I didn't like once

 

[Raithlin]

I use Vivaldi these days. Based on Chrome, add-on compatible, personalised. Works well.

https://vivaldi.com

 

[Bryn]

I use Vivaldi these days. Based on Chrome, add-on compatible, personalised. Works well.

https://vivaldi.com

I tried Vivaldi once and didn't like it. Can't remember why - maybe I should check it out again. I could even be thinking of the Brave browser. Disappointed to see an extra search box in the Vivaldi screenshot on their website.

 

[Bryn]

I use Vivaldi these days. Based on Chrome, add-on compatible, personalised. Works well.

https://vivaldi.com

Okay I tried Vivaldi again, and I definitely still don't like it.

- No apparent advantage over Chrome
- The Firefox-style search box looks really ugly
- Can't get rid of the side panel as far as I can tell, only reduce it to a thin strip
- Some Chrome extensions don't work or require janky workarounds
- Clunky menu within the Vivaldi button
- In general, and in contrast to their claims, it offers very little customisation

 

[XennoX]

I use Vivaldi these days. Based on Chrome, add-on compatible, personalised. Works well.

https://vivaldi.com

This.

 

[Raithlin]

Okay I tried Vivaldi again, and I definitely still don't like it.

Each to his own. I prefer it to Firefox though, and I used Firefox since it was renamed from Phoenix.

- No apparent advantage over Chrome

I find it to use less memory. Could just be me though - it *is* based on Chromium, after all.

- The Firefox-style search box looks really ugly

Remove option in Settings. I never use it. Customisable.

- Can't get rid of the side panel as far as I can tell, only reduce it to a thin strip

Again, Removable in Settings. Customisable.

- Some Chrome extensions don't work or require janky workarounds

This is personal, depending on which add-ons you use. I've not found any issues yet. I use Adguard, Send to Kindle, Pushbullet,LastPass, Boomerang for GMail, Download to DropBox, Pocket and RSS Feed Reader among others. Happy to try a particular one for you.

- Clunky menu within the Vivaldi button

You hardly ever use this, TBH.

- In general, and in contrast to their claims, it offers very little customisation

See above. I'm happy with it. The new History view is quite powerful as well. Also the next/previous domain buttons.

 

[Bryn]

Each to his own. I prefer it to Firefox though, and I used Firefox since it was renamed from Phoenix.
I find it to use less memory. Could just be me though - it *is* based on Chromium, after all.
Remove option in Settings. I never use it. Customisable.
Again, Removable in Settings. Customisable.
This is personal, depending on which add-ons you use. I've not found any issues yet. I use Adguard, Send to Kindle, Pushbullet,LastPass, Boomerang for GMail, Download to DropBox, Pocket and RSS Feed Reader among others. Happy to try a particular one for you.
You hardly ever use this, TBH.
See above. I'm happy with it. The new History view is quite powerful as well. Also the next/previous domain buttons.

I finally found the options. The search box hiding wasn't labelled very clearly and the ability to hide the side panel wasn't made known at all (toggle the toggle strip, hide the bar, untoggle the toggle strip - wtf).

My favourite broken extension I was referring to was Earth View from Google Earth. Makes new tabs look incredible. The only workaround is to set the extension's address as the new tab address, but that doesn't look great and doesn't seem as snappy. (Btw, it's chrome-extension://bhloflhklmhfpedakmangadcdofhnnoh/index.html)

But again, not seeing any reason to switch. Vivaldi's super ugly icon doesn't make me want it pinned in my taskbar and I'm not noticing any performance improvements. Or any added conveniences. It would be easier to find a Chrome theme that resembles the Vivaldi tabs than to set up a whole new browser to resemble Chrome.

 

[Johnatan56]

I finally found the options. The search box hiding wasn't labelled very clearly and the ability to hide the side panel wasn't made known at all (toggle the toggle strip, hide the bar, untoggle the toggle strip - wtf).

My favourite broken extension I was referring to was Earth View from Google Earth. Makes new tabs look incredible. The only workaround is to set the extension's address as the new tab address, but that doesn't look great and doesn't seem as snappy. (Btw, it's chrome-extension://bhloflhklmhfpedakmangadcdofhnnoh/index.html)

But again, not seeing any reason to switch. Vivaldi's super ugly icon doesn't make me want it pinned in my taskbar and I'm not noticing any performance improvements. Or any added conveniences. It would be easier to find a Chrome theme that resembles the Vivaldi tabs than to set up a whole new browser to resemble Chrome.

Chrome: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/earth-view-from-google-ea/bhloflhklmhfpedakmangadcdofhnnoh?hl=en

Just linking it properly.
I find it sad that chrome themes can't change things like tab looks, or even text size/font. In firefox one can even change it to a flat design., on Chrome Stylish can only influence sites.

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[Bryn]

Chrome: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/earth-view-from-google-ea/bhloflhklmhfpedakmangadcdofhnnoh?hl=en

Just linking it properly.
I find it sad that chrome themes can't change things like tab looks, or even text size/font. In firefox one can even change it to a flat design., on Chrome Stylish can only influence sites.

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EDIT2: I love the image downgrade by MyBB, lol.
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EDIT4: Nope, doesn't fix it changing to jpg.

Eh, I'm happy with the default Chrome design. Don't have any theme installed. When I used to use Firefox I used the FXChrome addon to make it look similar to Chrome.

Also, don't use the built-in upload for forum images. It just sucks. I've been using Imgur for years.

 

[neo_]

I had the same thing with FF. Vivaldi is nice, but too much for my daily needs. Opera doesn't fit right for me, and also a tad much. But I didn't want to use Chrome. So I landed up switching to Ungoogled Chromium, which is now my daily driver. However, note that it's a privacy-centric browser, and the webstore doesn't work. Installing extensions is not difficult though (there's a script for that). Builds for Windows tend to be a bit slow and, due to the way in which the browser is built and the fact that it relies on other browsers, such as Iridium, updates are not commonplace.

 

[saor]

Is there a similar search bar in Chrome?

 

[backstreetboy]

Is there a similar search bar in Chrome?

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The Chrome omnibox. You only need one search bar that can search anything. Many other browsers also copied it.

 

[Johnatan56]

I had the same thing with FF. Vivaldi is nice, but too much for my daily needs. Opera doesn't fit right for me, and also a tad much. But I didn't want to use Chrome. So I landed up switching to Ungoogled Chromium, which is now my daily driver. However, note that it's a privacy-centric browser, and the webstore doesn't work. Installing extensions is not difficult though (there's a script for that). Builds for Windows tend to be a bit slow and, due to the way in which the browser is built and the fact that it relies on other browsers, such as Iridium, updates are not commonplace.

I'd be worried about the lack of security updates if it's a privacy-centric browser. Hardening Mozilla Firefox For Privacy & Security 2016.Firefox 52 also adds some things and here is an article for enabling Tor security features.

Is there a similar search bar in Chrome?

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No, but I disabled that in ff as well, just type the search in the address bar. If you need to google a website, usually there is a search option add the bottom of suggested, else just add space and a .

The Chrome omnibox. You only need one search bar that can search anything. Many other browsers also copied it.

Firefox's address bar is an "omnibox" as well and has been for a long time (at before version 33 released 2014).