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Hi folks

I am nearly on my way…but before I go, just an interesting statistic from the new forum for the past three days. It looks like Firefox is definitely going to have an impact on the browser market:

MS Internet Explorer: 79777 (hits) 79.3 %
FireFox: 16750 (hits) 16.6 %

Previously IE was usually much more dominant…

Regards,

RPM
 
Shame on those 79.3% !
Hooray for those bright young things in the 16 percentile ! :D

BTW, the forum renders 100% perfect in Firefox.
 
I finally installed FireFox yesterday for the first time. So far I'm very pleased.
 
FF rocks! Now if we could just persuade some of the big portals to improve their html parsing to support it fully.....MWeb are you listening?
 
I have been using FF for a while now before it hit 1.0 status. It hasn't disappointed yet...

:o)
 
I use Thunderbird at home, but last time I checked, it still wasn't quite what I want for work.

I archive my important emails and over the years have a fair whack of them.
I've found that importing them all to Thunderbird makes it run very slowly.

I'll wait for the final release and then switch.

I must admit, I run outlook express "neutered" anyway - I don't use the address book feature, I don't accept reciepts (I frikkin hate that crap), I don't send/receive automatically or check for emails every 10 minutes (waste of bloody bandwidth !)

Besides, Thunderbird still has some annoying things I don't like - the way it formats with the vertical line, the way it attaches images and other nigglies.
 
I wonder how many of the firefox users logged are running it on windows and how many are Linux desktop users, any ideas ?
 
josselg said:
I wonder how many of the firefox users logged are running it on windows and how many are Linux desktop users, any ideas ?
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Probably in the 1 to 2 percent range for Linux if that.
 
ye, im running it on windows - wanna switch to linux but i have only scetchy knowledge about it. Hope everyone on the forum moves to firefox, support the better browser ppl!
 
Its so strange, Netscape has always been the 'better browser', but since MS released ie4 standard with windows 2000, I was too lazy to install Netscape again. I hate to say it, but I fell into MS trap of pre-bundled software to kill the competition, well no more, I been using firefox for the past 6 months.

In regards to a mail client, thunderbird is far from good, the only reason I use it is to share a mailbox between windows and linux.
If only evolution would move into gear and release evolution for windows, Works as good as Outlook, I actually find it nicer in some aspects.
 
Does anyone know why OpenOffice doesn't include a mail client, something to compete with Outlook?
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e-Mail clients have never really been considered as part of so-called 'office suites' in the *nix world - it's only when M$ did their bundling thing and included it with their suite, that this became the generally-accepted approach and norm in the non-*nix world (remember - Outlook, in its 'Express' incarnation, was actually part of Windoze, originally). That's why there's such a proliferation of e-mail clients, newsreaders, and the like in the *nix world, quite a few of which tie into the desktop managers available, instead of the office suites (e.g. KMail). Presumably, this scenario caused the suite project leaders to discard the idea of including an e-mail client, thereby promoting the freedom of choice principle. I suppose if the demand is high enough, this could eventually happen, though...
 
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I should've mentioned the collaborative side of Outlook, and asked why there isn't something similar in OpenOffice. Altho I can guess the real answer is: I'm too eager & need to allow OpenOffice some time to evolve.
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I suppose it really boils down to what is meant by 'collaboration' - the term has vastly different connotations for the diverse peeps out there. For example, a journalist would want to 'collaborate' primarily to the extent of passing wordprocessor articles to-and-fro between him/her and the sub-editor, editor, chief-editor, newsreader, and so on, whereas a software developer would want to pass code segments from his/her code editing software and CVS, tester, analyst, and so on. This kind of 'collaboration' is better achieved using an Intranet designed for the particular work scenario concerned, imho, for which purpose a templating approach using a CMS, EDMS and underlying DBMS is probably the best way to do it, as you have freedom of design. Personally I don't think much of the likes of 'groupware' products like Exchange, Lotus Notes or Oracle Office, as they effectively constrain you to working the way they've been designed, despite attempts to build in flexibility of use. When it comes to 'collaboration' between different pieces of software, however, *nix open source apps are still unsurpassed, due to the open APIs to the operating system and the ability to script/program whatever you need, effectively resulting in a suite of proggies perfectly suited to your needs. For example, you could take your favourite opensource e-mail client and make it work with Openoffice, if you so desire, even to the extent of making the user interface look exactly like that of the latter. If you do this, however, methinx youve got too much time on your hands...;)
 
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I have been jumping between Linux & Windows for years. I use E-smith for server work, Windows for desktops and SuSe for laptops.

Netscape & Mozilla have always been my preferred browsers, not that the websites look any different and IE works just as well.

However I must admit that Firefox is great, it will definately bring a lot of windows users into the "tabing" world.

Its a great browser.
 
After reading the posts here, I gave Thunderbird a try & well.....

Its not bad. I agree thats its no Outlook 2003 but it gets the job done all the same.

I think Mozilla might have a chance to win the market with a bit more work :)
 
ic said:
Ok here is a question: does Firefox have a Browser/WebBrowser object that can be used to integrate into your own apps, and if so how does it compare with IE's?
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Dunno about that, but surely the other way around makes better sense, i.e. write your app for use with the browser? That way, you have a consistent user interface, irrespective of what your app does, and you're also giving users some freedom of choice when it comes to their preferred browser... You also avoid the hassle of feature update hell when the object is upgraded, or the potential complete trashing of your app when the object is deprecated...
 
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