First time car owner

Lots of good advice here.
I agree that turbocharged cars typically break in more expensive ways than N/A ones, but I don't think they are inherently more prone to breaking.

I think sticking to franchise dealerships are better than non-franchised ones. Even some place like Inspectacar is likely better than Uncle Joe Dealership.
That said, I have heard some dodgy things from even a BMW dealership selling badly repaired used BMWs. Look for Facebook and Hello Peter reviews. All will have complaints, but you can at least try and see which ones are serious, and which ones are just sour grapes.

In my experience, some dealerships will also lie about what interest rates you are offered, in order for you to go with their preferred kickback provider. In my case, they told me Nedbank offered me +1% in order to go with ABSA's +0.5%. I talked to Nedbank myself and found out they gave me +0.3%.
On that note, you can't apply twice for finance for the same car. In other words, if the dealership applies on your behalf at Nedbank, you can't also apply personally for finance for that car at Nedbank. I went to the dealership and asked a consultant about my rate.

Don't always trust their 3rd party warranty offerings. A friend who bought a Fortuner at a Toyota dealership was offered a more expensive, worse 3rd party warranty, than Toyota themselves offer.
Do your homework, there are plenty of people out there who want to make an extra buck from you.

I have heard very good things about the Rio, and would probably choose between that and the i20.
 
i20 and Rio are basically the same car.
I drove an i20 for a few years and had only 1 minor issue that was not normal wear and tear.

The Rio has more features if you go for the tec spec though and that's what I would recommend.
Reliable, leather interior, xenon headlights, and all the other normal bells and whistles.

The 0.9t in the Clio is not very reliable.
My in-law had a timing chain and turbo replaced at 90 000km.

Vivo would offer much less bang for your buck.

Can't comment on the fiesta but I do know that you should stay away from their powers#.t auto.
 
For a first time car owner, I would recommend Toyota Corolla Quest. You will be able to get the previous shape, but still 2020 model with less than 20 000 km, multiple examples. Plenty of dealers around, legendary reliability, proven resale value and a bigger car than most of the others mentioned.
 
Fiesta is a good choice. Go for the 1.4i N/A engine for more reliability/less expensive repairs as others have mentioned.

Polo Vivo is also a good option in terms of reliability with it's chain-driven N/A motor that has been proven over the years. However, hijack risk may be a concern depending on where you go.
 
Fiesta has been top of my list, so this is reassuring.
Dude, a guy linked a car that even a blind man will see was abused.

Take your (so called) experienced friend and physically go see the cars you want to buy.
 
Dude, a guy linked a car that even a blind man will see was abused.

Take your (so called) experienced friend and physically go see the cars you want to buy.
I linked cars from the Autotrader app on my phone, so apologies if they weren\t all peaches. Was just showing OP there were options.
 
Strike Clio off the list, parts prices are terrible unless you have good contacts or it's on a maintenance plan. Had a Clio 4 for 5 years and make no mistake they are lovely vehicles but just the brakes and discs cost double that of my current 3 series o_O.
 
Lots of good advice here.
I agree that turbocharged cars typically break in more expensive ways than N/A ones, but I don't think they are inherently more prone to breaking.

I think sticking to franchise dealerships are better than non-franchised ones. Even some place like Inspectacar is likely better than Uncle Joe Dealership.
That said, I have heard some dodgy things from even a BMW dealership selling badly repaired used BMWs. Look for Facebook and Hello Peter reviews. All will have complaints, but you can at least try and see which ones are serious, and which ones are just sour grapes.

In my experience, some dealerships will also lie about what interest rates you are offered, in order for you to go with their preferred kickback provider. In my case, they told me Nedbank offered me +1% in order to go with ABSA's +0.5%. I talked to Nedbank myself and found out they gave me +0.3%.
On that note, you can't apply twice for finance for the same car. In other words, if the dealership applies on your behalf at Nedbank, you can't also apply personally for finance for that car at Nedbank. I went to the dealership and asked a consultant about my rate.

Don't always trust their 3rd party warranty offerings. A friend who bought a Fortuner at a Toyota dealership was offered a more expensive, worse 3rd party warranty, than Toyota themselves offer.
Do your homework, there are plenty of people out there who want to make an extra buck from you.

I have heard very good things about the Rio, and would probably choose between that and the i20.
Okay, noted. I've haven't dived deeply into the financing and the options so I'll factor this in and try to get as much information as possible when planning.
 
i20 and Rio are basically the same car.
I drove an i20 for a few years and had only 1 minor issue that was not normal wear and tear.

The Rio has more features if you go for the tec spec though and that's what I would recommend.
Reliable, leather interior, xenon headlights, and all the other normal bells and whistles.

The 0.9t in the Clio is not very reliable.
My in-law had a timing chain and turbo replaced at 90 000km.

Vivo would offer much less bang for your buck.

Can't comment on the fiesta but I do know that you should stay away from their powers#.t auto.
I've been hearing good things about the Rio, so I'll give that more of a look.

I thought the vivo would work out cheapest but too much downside. No one else has even touched on it in this thread.

I did see on other threads that fiesta autos are trouble more often than not
 
For a first time car owner, I would recommend Toyota Corolla Quest. You will be able to get the previous shape, but still 2020 model with less than 20 000 km, multiple examples. Plenty of dealers around, legendary reliability, proven resale value and a bigger car than most of the others mentioned.
Thank you, I will have a look.
 
Vivo would offer much less bang for your buck.

Yup, you will hear a lot of bangs and see your bucks drive away

edit: its a first time car owner, dont tell him to get a car that he has to constantly worry about if its still where he parked it or when he might get hijacked.
 
Hey Guys

Looking into purchasing a car in the next couple of months. I have a short list of cars that I found

This would be my first car
Would use it to travel to and from work(60k per day)
1 visit per month from JHB to Limpopo (1000 km)
I have a family, with 2 kids
My budget is R150k to R200k

My shortlist is :
Hyundai i20
Ford fiesta
Polo vivo trendline
Kia Rio
Renault Clio
Any recommendations or advise?
I was in the car market two years ago with pretty much the same list as yours. I ended up getting a 2014 Ford Fiesta 1.0 Ecoboost Trend with low millage.

Never been happier! 6 airbags, great sound system and phone connectivity. The car is hella fun to drive with ample power. That engine won engine of the year back then. The Kia's and Hyundai were lacking in that department.

Fuel economy rated at 5L/100km but you won't get close to that. I currently get 7.2L/100km with urban and highway driving.

Services are relatively well priced at Ford dealerships. Also did breaks and discs at another company and it wasn't badly priced.
 
Dude, a guy linked a car that even a blind man will see was abused.

Take your (so called) experienced friend and physically go see the cars you want to buy.
I viewed that more as an example than anything else. There's a few franchise dealerships in and around my area so I'll definitely go have a look.
 
Also, go and sit in a fiesta's driver seat before you shop around for one. Years ago I was set on a fiesta too, then sat in the drivers seat and went for something else, its a very cramped small place for the average Joe.
 
My last car was a Kia Rio Tec. I drove it for four years and had zero issues.

It was very comfortable and had the best specs of any car in that price range.

It is also less likely to get stolen that a fiesta and should have lower insurance premiums.
 
I viewed that more as an example than anything else. There's a few franchise dealerships in and around my area so I'll definitely go have a look.

Not sure what area you’re in but you can go to Ford Fury Fourways and talk to Willem. Tell him Bruce sent you and he’ll look after you.

Otherwise Williams Hunt Cedar, speak to Andrew. It’s an Opel dealership but they have second hand cars from trade-ins and such. He’s a good guy and a friend of mine, he will look after you too.
 
I viewed that more as an example than anything else
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. There's a few franchise dealerships in and around my area so I'll definitely go have a look.
An example of what the fvck NOT TO BUY, then sure ... :D
 
Okay, thanks for the information. I'll note this as I do more searching. Have you ever come across an article that you think explained engines clearly? Please share the link

I don't have any ready article at hand, i read a lot on cars and that's where I get most information from various sources.

Maybe someone can recommend something but I am a car magazine, TV motoring show kind of guy. I can recommend Buyers Guide show on Ignition TV channel 189, it's a generally informative show if you are planning to buy a car.
 
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