G-Sync/AMD Free-sync

[The Voice]

Does smoother gameplay help you be a better gamer

FPS is directly linked to input lag, so yes.

 

[The Voice]

This is an age old meme in the gaming community, debated over many years. Everyone has their own take on this, but I feel it is sort of unanimous among the real greasy gamers that if you are a professional gamer (aka you get paid money to play for at least 8hours a day) any little bit could help them get an edge over their competition. I personally think it really does not matter once you get to those types of high frame rates and that 99% of people won't notice unless their frames drop under 144fps.

High refresh rate monitors were originally designed for the pros, anyway, and inevitably made it down to the consumer market. The main advantage comes in with reducing dropped frames, because if your machine is pumping out enough frames you’ll never notice the drops which could be the difference between winning and losing a match with money on the line.

Some CS:GO pros used to play on CRTs with 60hz refresh rates at over 300fps, so that they never dropped frames, even though high refresh rate monitors were already available. As the technology improved they’ve all moved over now I think, but was quite interesting to see them playing on monster PCs with dogshit monitors on purpose, back when I used to watch the pro scene.

 

[copacetic]

Thanks so much. This one really does look much better , so when it says USB-C supports G sync will it work with a USB-C cable only.

My apologies - I thought this one had a DP output. Your next mission is to figure out if there's a cable/adapter that can go from the laptop's USB-C cable > DP while supporting VRR. I'd ask a reputable vendor, they will be able to advise, I'd imagine.

I was lucky - my monitor has a USB-C input, which I did not realise when I bought it. I was flabbergasted, to be honest, when I plugged it in and G-sync worked...

 

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My apologies - I thought this one had a DP output. Your next mission is to figure out if there's a cable/adapter that can go from the laptop's USB-C cable > DP while supporting VRR. I'd ask a reputable vendor, they will be able to advise, I'd imagine.

I was lucky - my monitor has a USB-C input, which I did not realise when I bought it. I was flabbergasted, to be honest, when I plugged it in and G-sync worked...

Wait.., i just reliased something. My laptop doesnt support higher than 60Hz as when i just use the laptop screen the highest frame rate is 60. So would it be the laptop and not the monitor that is the problem. So if i were to get a 144Hz laptop display with a really good graphics card would i really need G-Sync? But this laptop you showed me has a display port so could i theortically plug the display port cable into the port in the laptop and wont it work or will it only work with USB-C?

 

[_kabal_]

Wait.., i just reliased something. My laptop doesnt support higher than 60Hz as when i just use the laptop screen the highest frame rate is 60. So would it be the laptop and not the monitor that is the problem. So if i were to get a 144Hz laptop display with a really good graphics card would i really need G-Sync? But this laptop you showed me has a display port so could i theortically plug the display port cable into the port in the laptop and wont it work or will it only work with USB-C?

Refresh rate != frames per second.

If you are seeing max 60fps this is a software issue (vsync/frame cap) and not hardware.

A potato on a 500hz monitor will still be a potato, and a 4090 on a 60hz monitor can still pump out 400fps


Seriously. Go watch a “gsync/freesync/vrr explained” YouTube video.

 

[Random member 231113]

Refresh rate != frames per second.

If you are seeing max 60fps this is a software issue (vsync/frame cap) and not hardware.

A potato on a 500hz monitor will still be a potato, and a 4090 on a 60hz monitor can still pump out 400fps


Seriously. Go watch a “gsync/freesync/vrr explained” YouTube video.

Yeah i know its a software issue. Partially my monitor

 

[_kabal_]

Yeah i know its a software issue. Partially my monitor

Nope, a monitor has zero effect on how many fps a game can generate.

 

[copacetic]

Wait.., i just reliased something. My laptop doesnt support higher than 60Hz as when i just use the laptop screen the highest frame rate is 60. So would it be the laptop and not the monitor that is the problem. So if i were to get a 144Hz laptop display with a really good graphics card would i really need G-Sync? But this laptop you showed me has a display port so could i theortically plug the display port cable into the port in the laptop and wont it work or will it only work with USB-C?

What appears on your laptop screen (very commonly 60Hz, especially older laptops) has nothing to do with the output onto an external screen. They are separate things. That said, and this is one thing I'd meant to ask - when you hook up to an external monitor, do you also have your laptop screen on? And if so, are you mirroring the screens (i.e. the mouse cursor appears on both at the same time)?

With regard to VRR (G-sync, etc) - I get the impression there is some confusion with all of this, and all the (admittedly very confusing) related tech / setups.

First of all - the framerate a game runs at, has very little to do with whatever the framerate a monitor is set to (for the purposes herein). I have a 165Hz monitor, and if I am playing a game at ~20 FPS, that's what the game is going to run at. You can also play 500FPS games on a 60Hz monitor, you will just not get all the advantages of such a high FPS (this scenario is kind of pointless in any event).

I think this all need to be simplified - What is your plan? You have a nice monitor, correct? And it has HDMI and DP inputs. What you would like to achieve is running that monitor set up at 165Hz?

Just for some context from my own set up - My laptop monitor does 1080p @ 120Hz, and my external monitor does 1440p @ 165Hz. All works fine together; further, I have VRR working perfectly on the external monitor.

From what I can understand, you are wanting to have a similar sort of situation set up?

To do this, it looks like a laptop upgrade is the ticket here. The thing that has to be determined in this case is: Can the laptop output the signal your monitor needs (and in this case, this is 1440P @ 165Hz)? This is possible, but can get a bit complicated.

My suggestion at this point: email Wootware, and ask about the laptop that I had pointed you to (or something similar, see what they suggest, and tell them at the end of the day, you' d like:

Laptop that can handle the games you are interested in, able to output to your monitor (tell them what the monitor is) at 1440p @ 165Hz (these are your monitor specs, I think). Also tell them you would like to utilise VRR at the same time and can they please provide the correct cables / adaptors as needed.

I think this will really simplify the whole process, and in the end, you will definitely get what you are looking for.

 

[Random member 231113]

What appears on your laptop screen (very commonly 60Hz, especially older laptops) has nothing to do with the output onto an external screen. They are separate things. That said, and this is one thing I'd meant to ask - when you hook up to an external monitor, do you also have your laptop screen on? And if so, are you mirroring the screens (i.e. the mouse cursor appears on both at the same time)?

With regard to VRR (G-sync, etc) - I get the impression there is some confusion with all of this, and all the (admittedly very confusing) related tech / setups.

First of all - the framerate a game runs at, has very little to do with whatever the framerate a monitor is set to (for the purposes herein). I have a 165Hz monitor, and if I am playing a game at ~20 FPS, that's what the game is going to run at. You can also play 500FPS games on a 60Hz monitor, you will just not get all the advantages of such a high FPS (this scenario is kind of pointless in any event).

I think this all need to be simplified - What is your plan? You have a nice monitor, correct? And it has HDMI and DP inputs. What you would like to achieve is running that monitor set up at 165Hz?

Just for some context from my own set up - My laptop monitor does 1080p @ 120Hz, and my external monitor does 1440p @ 165Hz. All works fine together; further, I have VRR working perfectly on the external monitor.

From what I can understand, you are wanting to have a similar sort of situation set up?

To do this, it looks like a laptop upgrade is the ticket here. The thing that has to be determined in this case is: Can the laptop output the signal your monitor needs (and in this case, this is 1440P @ 165Hz)? This is possible, but can get a bit complicated.

My suggestion at this point: email Wootware, and ask about the laptop that I had pointed you to (or something similar, see what they suggest, and tell them at the end of the day, you' d like:

Laptop that can handle the games you are interested in, able to output to your monitor (tell them what the monitor is) at 1440p @ 165Hz (these are your monitor specs, I think). Also tell them you would like to utilise VRR at the same time and can they please provide the correct cables / adaptors as needed.

I think this will really simplify the whole process, and in the end, you will definitely get what you are looking for.

Oh wow this is a very clear and concise explaination that i just needed. The setup i want is kinda the same as yours. So ideally i think its best to probably email wootware about my questions. So the laptop you showed me should be able to run games at a good enough refresh rate lets say about 165 eish and a fps around 300 ? Then i guess its worth investing in a new laptop. The laptopt you showed me comes with a DP cable so i think everything should be fine

 

[Random member 231113]

Nope, a monitor has zero effect on how many fps a game can generate.

So its the graphics card right?