Gadaffi Sodomized

Fazda said:
Really Fader4 you do know how to stretch the truth to your own advantage.

You also make it sound as if Obama personally oversees every death in which the US Amy/Navy/Air-force has anything to do with. You then link porchrat to an article discussing the death of a kid who was involved with Al Qaeda up to his eyeballs, in order to prove your point.

I give up. :rolleyes:
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Fazda said:
Really Fader4 you do know how to stretch the truth to your own advantage.

You also make it sound as if Obama personally oversees every death in which the US Amy/Navy/Air-force has anything to do with. You then link porchrat to an article discussing the death of a kid who was involved with Al Qaeda up to his eyeballs, in order to prove your point.

I give up. :rolleyes:
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Hi

As copacetic pointed out.....

http://www.salon.com/2010/01/27/yemen_3/singleton/

:) Enjoy.
 
McSack said:
How does a thread about anal intrusion inflicted on The Gadfly degenerate into a US-bashfest?
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Quite simple really, the MyBb Obamabashers will never miss an opportunity to post a link to some Republican blog or anti US paper in order to feed their hobbyhorse.
 
Fazda said:
Quite simple really, the MyBb Obamabashers will never miss an opportunity to post a link to some Republican blog or anti US paper in order to feed their hobbyhorse.
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Are you trolling again or what? Obama bashing republicans? Salon.com?

seriously, get informed before you post nonsense like that.
 
Fader4 said:
Are you trolling again or what? Obama bashing republicans? Salon.com?

seriously, get informed before you post nonsense like that.
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In order to do that, you will have to stop posting links to nonsense like that :)

And why is it that I am accused of trolling whenever I disagree with you, or do you do that to everyone who doesn't see your own point of view?? :confused:
 
Anyway BOT.
I think the Libyans have done themselves a disservice by taking the gadfly out in the manner that they did.
Instead of sinking to his level of barbarism they should have locked the b@stard up until they could sort out a proper trial. Now I know there’s every chance that the outcome of any trial would ultimately still have led to the execution of Gadaffi, but at least through the process the people of Libya would have had the opportunity to hang out his dirty laundry for all to see.
Maybe if the world got to hear the truth of the suffering handed out by the crazy SOB from the people who actually suffered under his rule, we wouldn’t have all of this sad idol-worship by some nutters who will support any mad b@stard just because he once upon a time thumbed his nose at the west
 
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McSack said:
Anyway BOT.
I think the Libyans have done themselves a disservice by taking out the gadfly out in the manner that they did.
Instead of sinking to his level of barbarism they should have locked the b@stard up until they could sort out a proper trial. Now I know there’s every chance that the outcome of any trial would ultimately still have led to the execution of Gadaffi, but at least through the process the people of Libya would have had the opportunity to hang out his dirty laundry for all to see.
Maybe if the world got to hear the truth of the suffering handed out by the crazy SOB from the people who actually suffered under his rule, we wouldn’t have all of this sad idol-worship by some nutters who will support any mad b@stard just because he once upon a time thumbed his nose at the west
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Absolutely! +1000
 
Fader4 said:
Are you trolling again or what? Obama bashing republicans? Salon.com?

seriously, get informed before you post nonsense like that.
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yeah ... I noticed the link you posted was very pre-occupied with what is happening in Libya and the gadfly getting his rusty starfish reamed out with a broomstick :rolleyes:
 
McSack said:
Anyway BOT.
I think the Libyans have done themselves a disservice by taking out the gadfly out in the manner that they did.
Instead of sinking to his level of barbarism they should have locked the b@stard up until they could sort out a proper trial. Now I know there’s every chance that the outcome of any trial would ultimately still have led to the execution of Gadaffi, but at least through the process the people of Libya would have had the opportunity to hang out his dirty laundry for all to see.
Maybe if the world got to hear the truth of the suffering handed out by the crazy SOB from the people who actually suffered under his rule, we wouldn’t have all of this sad idol-worship by some nutters who will support any mad b@stard just because he once upon a time thumbed his nose at the west
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Maybe they did themselves a disservice, but the did a great service to the rest of the planet.
 
zippy said:
Maybe they did themselves a disservice, but the did a great service to the rest of the planet.
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I agree totally . Gadaffi got what was coming to him. But I don't think the way it was handled is going to be good for Libya.
How do you start a "normal, law abiding" society with an act of barbarism like that?
... and I've put the normal bit between quotes, considering that not everyone has the same idea of what normal and law-abiding are
 
I think the error was a strategic one on his own part, we could a see that it was going to end like this. He chose to stay in Libya even though he had other options (nice options)

He chose to hide in a hole and this was the consequence.

No one can really be held accountable for the actions of a mob, it got crazy and they hated him.

The same thing would have happened to George W Bush if he had hid in a hole in Afghanistan. A multitude of things could have happened to him, they could have stoned him to death or tore him apart. One weird person just decided that it was going to be a good idea to stick a pole up the dudes @ss... it was pretty much game over anyway.
 
Fazda said:
Quite simple really, the MyBb Obamabashers will never miss an opportunity to post a link to some Republican blog or anti US paper in order to feed their hobbyhorse.
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I've always gotten the impression from your posts that you are an eminently sensible guy.

Do you really feel that Glenn Greenwald's writing is simply anti-American guff?

Have you read that particular article we linked to?
 
So he had his cheeks spread before he died, big deal. Some would call it a tiny bit of payback for what his regime did to others.
In fact reading about the torture chambers and mass graves, they should have impaled him on a stick and left like that for all to see.
 
McSack said:
I agree totally . Gadaffi got what was coming to him. But I don't think the way it was handled is going to be good for Libya.
How do you start a "normal, law abiding" society with an act of barbarism like that?
... and I've put the normal bit between quotes, considering that not everyone has the same idea of what normal and law-abiding are
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The French revolution was way more barbaric.
 
I really don't get why this is laid at Obama's feet though.

I mean... do we call Zuma a fraudster because Bheki Cele did a dodgy lease agreement? No. We just expect Zuma to ensure that those responsible are punished.

If Zuma doesn't see to it that those people are punished it doesn't necessarily mean he is corrupt. He may just as easily be a useless ineffectual president.
 
porchrat said:
I really don't get why this is laid at Obama's feet though.

I mean... do we call Zuma a fraudster because Bheki Cele did a dodgy lease agreement? No. We just expect Zuma to ensure that those responsible are punished.

If Zuma doesn't see to it that those people are punished it doesn't necessarily mean he is corrupt. He may just as easily be a useless ineffectual president.
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Perhaps now, you can understand why I get so frustrated with the anti Obama crowd around here, who salivate at the thought of pointing a finger directly at him for absolutely everything.
 
Fazda said:
Perhaps now, you can understand why I get so frustrated with the anti Obama crowd around here, who salivate at the thought of pointing a finger directly at him for absolutely everything.
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At the same time it is the president that holds that ultimate responsibility. He will be judged negatively for failing to sort out problems.

This is why I don't follow American politics. Everything is so polarised and filled with mud-slinging. I can't see the wood for the trees when I read this stuff.
 
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