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Devill said:
ok so now it is between the D40 and the 350d.

I know I can google this but to me it means jack shlt because I don't really know anything about cameras. That why I as you people :)

Lol, which is better IYO?

I want to learn about using the camera but I can not pay more than R5000 for a camera (I have studies and petrol and food to buy you know:p).
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I dont think you're going to go wrong either way.

Pick em both up - see which is the better fit and understand that there is a good chance that after you buy your first lens you'll stick with one or the other brand for good. :)

BTW - Ken Rockwell is concerned with one thing and one thing only . . . Ken Rockwell.
sdd said:
If you go for the Canon 350D - you must get the Canon nifty fifty lens.
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Yes - you must . . . fortunately it's cheap. :D
 
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Might be posted before ... but why dont you buy scond hand ... there are very good deals to be had out there ... and most photographers take care of their stuff pretty well.

Check out outdoorphoto.co.za

If you decide to buy the body only, I have a Canon kit lens gathering dust ... and will sell it to you cheap.
 
sdd said:
Might be posted before ... but why dont you buy scond hand ... there are very good deals to be had out there ... and most photographers take care of their stuff pretty well.

Check out outdoorphoto.co.za

If you decide to buy the body only, I have a Canon kit lens gathering dust ... and will sell it to you cheap.
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Thank you for all the replies :)

I will have a look at the 350d and the d40 :)

Ps how much is cheap for the lense :p?

Just so i know how the kit will then compare to the D40 kit as a whole and price wise.
 
I own a D40 and I am very happy with it. One thing that it does not have is AEB - if HDR is something you may want to play around with then this will sting.
Other than that - graduating from a point and shoot has been bucket loads of fun with the D40 (not that it wouldn't be with the 350D).

Far as I can see there are 3 big differences between the two options:

1.) S.A. is infested with all things Canon, I don't know why this is but whenever I want something small for my camera (screen protector; U.V. filter etc.) they have Canon but have to order Nikon (I am usually told in very serious tones how expensive this will be). So Canon may be a more convenient choice on that basis.

2.) AEB - since discovering HDR I am totally gutted that I spent R5k on a camera that makes it awkward to get the source that is required. This is transient though - a new technique could emerge tomorrow that requires a setting that no camera has so *shrugs*

3.) The D40 has by quite a wide margin the smallest DSLR body that I have held (Sony/Canon/Nikon) - I really like that and it feels good in the hand, the same may be true for you or you may find the opposite but it does bear mentioning: the D40 is small for a DSLR.
 
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SlinkyMike said:
I own a D40 and I am very happy with it. One thing that it does not have is AEB - if HDR is something you may want to play around with then this will sting.
Other than that - graduating from a point and shoot has been bucket loads of fun with the D40 (not that it wouldn't be with the 350D).

Far as I can see there are 3 big differences between the two options:

1.) S.A. is infested with all things Canon, I don't know why this is but whenever I want something small for my camera (screen protector; U.V. filter etc.) they have Canon but have to order Nikon (I am usually told in very serious tones how expensive this will be). So Canon may be a more convenient choice on that basis.

2.) AEB - since discovering HDR I am totally gutted that I spent R5k on a camera that makes it awkward to get the source that is required. This is transient though - a new technique could emerge tomorrow that requires a setting that no camera has so *shrugs*

3.) The D40 has by quite a wide margin the smallest DSLR body that I have held (Sony/Canon/Nikon) - I really like that and it feels good in the hand, the same may be true for you or you may find the opposite but it does bear mentioning: the D40 is small for a DSLR.
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ah thanx :)

Now can you please explain what AEB is and HDR?

I am leaning towards the d40 atm.
 
If you get the D40 - by it @ SA Camera. Its the cheapest i could find. http://www.sacamera.co.za/product/149/Nikon-Digital-SLRs.html

Nikon D40 with Nikon 18-55mm 3.5-5.6 IF-ED Lens (Includes R750 Training Voucher) Reviews(0) | Details

The D40 combines outstanding picture quality with a smart, lightweight and compact design that will appeal to everyone. 6.1 effective megapixels. Fast 2.5 frames per second in bursts of up to 100 JPEG frames (FINE L-size or smaller)

Price: R4,899.00 (R4,899.00 Inc. Vat)
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Best part is that it comes with a R750 training voucher!
 
Devill said:
ah thanx :)

Now can you please explain what AEB is and HDR?

I am leaning towards the d40 atm.
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No worries.

AEB: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autobracketing

HDR: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_dynamic_range_imaging

Having AEB makes getting the source images for HDR a lot easier.

Don't let the 'free training' influence your decision too much - I doubt they will teach you anything you cant learn from the manual. After having your camera for a few weeks you will most likely learn that the education you require is less around the functioning of the camera as it is around what those functions do. Courses like that cost a few thousand rands a pop and again: nothing you cant learn by applying yourself in front of a computer attached to the net :)
 
That free training is included in the R4900 price!! i think its awesome deal. Its FREE
 
SlinkyMike said:
No worries.

AEB: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autobracketing

HDR: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_dynamic_range_imaging

Having AEB makes getting the source images for HDR a lot easier.

Don't let the 'free training' influence your decision too much - I doubt they will teach you anything you cant learn from the manual. After having your camera for a few weeks you will most likely learn that the education you require is less around the functioning of the camera as it is around what those functions do. Courses like that cost a few thousand rands a pop and again: nothing you cant learn by applying yourself in front of a computer attached to the net :)
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Thanks again for taking the time to post the links :) and help me make an informed decision.

Genius. said:
That free training is included in the R4900 price!! i think its awesome deal. Its FREE
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Well if it is R4900 with a free lesson or R5000 without ..... :)

Ill have a look at what game offers with the body and the lense.
 
Devill said:
ok so now it is between the D40 and the 350d.
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Lol, which is better IYO?
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Do you have Nikon lenses? If yes, buy the Nikon.
Do you have Canon lenses? If yes, buy the Canon.
If you have no lenses? Buy the cheapest one :)

That training voucher deal makes the D40 sound mighty fine.

Genius. said:
Here is some reviews on the Nikon - http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d40.htm
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Just don't read too much of hist stuff (or put too much stock in it) - heavy on the cool-aid.

SlinkyMike said:
1.) S.A. is infested with all things Canon, I don't know why this is but whenever I want something small for my camera (screen protector; U.V. filter etc.) they have Canon but have to order Nikon (I am usually told in very serious tones how expensive this will be). So Canon may be a more convenient choice on that basis.
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I guess they still have too much Canon stock to move before they can start stocking on Nikons. Yes, Nikons are generally more expensive, except for the entry level ones.

SlinkyMike said:
2.) AEB - since discovering HDR I am totally gutted that I spent R5k on a camera that makes it awkward to get the source that is required. This is transient though - a new technique could emerge tomorrow that requires a setting that no camera has so *shrugs*
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True. Doesn't stop you from doing it the old way either. Ideally you'd be shooting on a tripod any way, so changing a setting on the camera in-between shots shouldn't hurt.

SlinkyMike said:
Don't let the 'free training' influence your decision too much - I doubt they will teach you anything you cant learn from the manual.
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Someone here bought a D40 with that voucher a while ago (Genius, was that you?). I'm keen to hear the feedback on that training.
 
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Yo Koffiejunkie, it was me yes. I have been so busy these past few months. Never have time to goto the training. Im hoping to catch this months one. They have it once a month in Cape Town, Durban and Joburg.
 
Devill said:
Thanks again for taking the time to post the links :) and help me make an informed decision.
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Seriously: no worries. I was where you are recently - thankfully I have some mates who are fairly serious about photography so they were able to help me along a bit... it can be a real minefield. :o

Another thing that I was told that I'd like to pass on to anyone seriously considering an entry level DSLR is that once you are bitten by the shutterbug its unlikely that this will be the last camera you ever purchase ;)

koffiejunkie said:
Someone here bought a 40D with that voucher a while ago (Genius, was that you?). I'm keen to hear the feedback on that training.
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+1
 
SlinkyMike said:
1.) S.A. is infested with all things Canon, I don't know why this is but whenever I want something small for my camera (screen protector; U.V. filter etc.) they have Canon but have to order Nikon (I am usually told in very serious tones how expensive this will be). So Canon may be a more convenient choice on that basis.
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Are Nikon filters different than Canon ones? Not that you need a UV filter anyway.

I just use the generic screen protectors - do you get the name brand ones? Is there a noticeable difference?
 
bwana said:
Are Nikon filters different than Canon ones? Not that you need a UV filter anyway.
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Canon and Nikon both do make (some) filters, but the thread's the same all the way, so they're platform independent, so to speak.
 
Devill said:
awesome:)

I think I wil go " test " them both on saturday.
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Seeing that you're in Pta, do yourself a favour and go and talk to Hedrus at Outdoorphoto. They are close to Menlyn. You'll get far better advice there than from someone at Game.

For me the biggest advantages of an SLR over P&S are no shutter lag, being able to change lenses and seeing what the lens is seeing. Also, the bigger sensor means better quality pics.
 
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