Gay Weddings:-

blunomore said:
Voicy, you forget that Christianity is one of the religions where the followers got strict instructions to convert the heathens.

So they will always be on the lookout for 'sinners'.
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Ah yes, I forgot that we are to burn the witches!

Now I remember why I stopped going to church.

I like your Christ. I do not like your christians. They are nothing like your Christ. - M. Gandhi
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Voicy said:
I like your Christ. I do not like your christians. They are nothing like your Christ. - M. Gandhi
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I have said that a million times on this board: Christianity is a wonderful religion. 'Pity about the Christians, though.
 
blunomore said:
A lot of different people can be authorised to perform marriage ceremonies, including captains of ships, religious people like priests and reverends and magistrates too.
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If they're registered as a marriage officer then they no doubt can.

but as far as the modern law is concerned, it is done by Home Affairs.
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Not according to Home Affairs.

Waaib said:
I agree. I still think the whole wedding trip is just plain odd and reckon they just do it for the free toasters.
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Spend R50,000+ (and that's getting it cheap) for the free appliances? Weddings are madness.
milomak said:
can someone point out to me how the bible can be interpreted to not be against homosexuality?
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That's not even necessary. I have chosen not to follow the Bible's advice on the correct procedure for raping and pillaging when conquering a neighbouring nation. I also don't think I am going to sell my daughter or keep slaves. Homosexuals can similarly ignore any references to homosexuality in the Bible.
 
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Serqet said:
I think you have to be careful when you say you don't understand why they have to bring religion into it. Gay people are just as religious as straight people and are allowed to take their vows before God even if we don't agree with it regardless of what the bible says. The bible also states that thou should love thy neighbour.
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There are many parts of the Bible Christians choose to ignore.
 
In addition I'm always so fascinated how the "straight" or "religious" people are so concerned about the lives of the gay/lesbian/transgendered etc. It also seems like so many dont have gay friends( or assume they dont).

So what...somebody's hair is red..another person is black..some people are gay. woo hoo.
 
To quote someone I heard many many moons ago:

" I support Gay marriages ... I believe everyone should have the right to be equally miserable for the rest of their lives."
 
blunomore said:
Maybe you went to the wrong Department :o
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No, they are quite right. Marriages may take place in various places and need only be performed by a marriage officer which includes magistrates. Although technically outdoors and places like restaurants don't exactly fit the requirements I've never known anyone to have any issues. A courthouse is very likely to qualify too.
 
noxibox said:
No, they are quite right. Marriages may take place in various places and need only be performed by a marriage officer which includes magistrates. Although technically outdoors and places like restaurants don't exactly fit the requirements I've never known anyone to have any issues. A courthouse is very likely to qualify too.
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You missed my point. The issue we were debating is whether civil marriages are done by a magistrate in a court, or by a designated officer at the Department of Home Affairs. The answer is the latter.

If someone wants a marriage on the beach or in their house or on a ship, then any one of a number of people authorised to do so, can marry them.

However, if you want the state to marry you in a 'normal' way, you go to the Department of Home Affairs and not to the court.

Hope that makes sense now.
 
I know this is a bit off topic, but i found it ironic, that the gay community was fighting so hard for the "gay marriage" thing, and then when it was granted, the first gay divorce happened 2 weeks after the fact :)
 
Bizkit87 said:
I know this is a bit off topic, but i found it ironic, that the gay community was fighting so hard for the "gay marriage" thing, and then when it was granted, the first gay divorce happened 2 weeks after the fact :)
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and you have seen the current divorce rates for straight marriages...
 
blunomore said:
You missed my point. The issue we were debating is whether civil marriages are done by a magistrate in a court, or by a designated officer at the Department of Home Affairs. The answer is the latter.

If someone wants a marriage on the beach or in their house or on a ship, then any one of a number of people authorised to do so, can marry them.

However, if you want the state to marry you in a 'normal' way, you go to the Department of Home Affairs and not to the court.

Hope that makes sense now.
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[-]Arent[/-] all magistrates, JoP's, etc are also marriage officers[-]?[/-].
 
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:) I'm quite impressed with all of you chatting in this thread. Its refreshing to read positive comments about how you str8 guys feel about gay people and their antics...

I don't see the point of having a big fan-fair of a wedding... Honestly why spend so much on a wedding when the marriage is between you and your partner!?!

I think when people say they're going to get married in court, is just a figure of speech, meaning they will get whoever to get it over and done with in a office G_d knows where...

Sure, Just because i'm gay doesnt mean i don't believe in God... ... I don't! But even so, I have the same right to believe in Liewe Heksie just as much as Pookie does, even tho some of his friends bonks tables and chairs... and cars :D (wasnt there a guy in the UK that was doing his car's exhaust???...*g*)
 
blunomore said:
Err, I wouldn't. An authorised official from Home Affairs would perform it.
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And in areas where there is no authorised official from Home Affairs?

Court makes sense - since that's where nearly half of all marriages are going to end up at anyway. ;)
 
bwana said:
And in areas where there is no authorised official from Home Affairs?

Court makes sense - since that's where nearly half of all marriages are going to end up at anyway. ;)
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This is how it works, bwana. Home Affairs peforms marriages and the courts grant divorces. Yes, rather ironic.
 
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