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GOP senators Romney, Murkowski praise Mattis' stinging rebuke of Trump's protest response

'Stunning,' 'powerful,' 'overdue': Romney, Murkowski praise Mattis' stinging Trump rebuke

Sen. Murkowski, an Alaska Republican, said she was struggling with whether to back the president's re-election.

Republican Sen. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska on Thursday praised former Defense Secretary James Mattis' blistering critique of President Donald Trump as "true and honest and necessary and overdue."

Murkowski said: "When I saw Gen. Mattis' comments yesterday I felt like perhaps we are getting to a point where we can be more honest with the concerns that we might hold internally and have the courage of our own convictions to speak up. And so I'm working as one individual to form the right words, knowing that these words really matter so I appreciate General Mattis’ comments."


In a statement in The Atlantic magazine on Wednesday, Mattis, a retired Marine Corps general, said Trump has abused his executive authority and used his presidency to further divide the country. "Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people — does not even pretend to try. Instead, he tries to divide us," Mattis wrote.

Asked if she'd support the re-election of the president, whom she voted to acquit at his impeachment trial despite behavior she said was "shameful," Murkowski said: "I am struggling with it. I have struggled with it for a long time."

Murkowski said she'd continue to work with Trump and his administration in the meantime.

"I think right now, as we are all struggling to find ways to express the words that need to be expressed appropriately, questions about who I'm going to vote for or not going to vote for, I think, are distracting at the moment. I know people might think that's a dodge, but I think there are important conversations that we need to have as an American people among ourselves about where we are right now," she said.

Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah, called Mattis' statement "stunning and powerful."

Without going into detail about the contents of his statement, Romney called him "an American patriot" and "an individual whose judgment I respect." Romney was the only Republican senator who voted to convict Trump on one of the two articles of impeachment.

Trump pushed back against Mattis in a pair of Wednesday night tweets, claiming he'd fired him and labeling him "an overrated general." John Kelly, who was Trump's chief of staff at the time, told The Washington Poston Thursday, "The president has clearly forgotten how it actually happened or is confused."

“The president did not fire him. He did not ask for his resignation,” Kelly, who like Mattis is a retired Marine Corps general, told the paper, adding, "Jim Mattis is an honorable man."

Other Republican senators shrugged off Mattis' comments, despite their past support for Trump's former defense secretary.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, a Republican from South Carolina and a top Trump ally, told Fox News of Mattis: "I admire his service to the nation. But the one thing I would tell General Mattis is that you don't quite understand that from the time President Trump wakes up until he goes to bed there's an effort to destroy his presidency."

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Love to post unconfirmable anecdotes that make my tribe look good and the tribe I don't like look bad.


Corporations jumping on board is pretty cynical and amusing. But let's not pretend the Spectator faithful give even half a schit about "...a robust debate about how to improve the lot of those at the bottom rung of society."

Or about corporations that adopt right wing political positions.

Woke neo progressiveness is a pandemic. It infects and spreads across the world at data line speeds.

Aren't you the guy who pretended to be a moderate/centrist? lol.
 
Another doozy.

Just after midnight, 4 cops, none wearing body cameras or uniforms, using an illegal warrant, break into this lady's house, looking for 2 different people, who were already in police custody, because those 2 people had supposedly sold drugs at a house 16km away. They don't announce who they are or what they're doing there. She yells at them repeatedly asking who they are, with no response.

The lady's boyfriend, a registered firearm owner, phones 911 to tell them about the possible armed robbery happening. A shooting starts, he hits one officer in the leg, they proceed to shoot 20 times, hitting the lady (an EMT) 8 times, killing her, and injuring the boyfriend.

They then arrest the boyfriend and charge him with attempted murder (now dismissed after an outcry, fortunately). They don't find any drugs, either.


They do more than 20k of these 'raids' a year, often killing people, and in the vast majority of cases not even finding anything.

 
Another doozy.

Just after midnight, 4 cops, none wearing body cameras or uniforms, using an illegal warrant, break into this lady's house, looking for 2 different people, who were already in police custody, because those 2 people had supposedly sold drugs at a house 16km away. They don't announce who they are or what they're doing there. She yells at them repeatedly asking who they are, with no response.

The lady's boyfriend, a registered firearm owner, phones 911 to tell them about the possible armed robbery happening. A shooting starts, he hits one officer in the leg, they proceed to shoot 20 times, hitting the lady (an EMT) 8 times, killing her, and injuring the boyfriend.

They then arrest the boyfriend and charge him with attempted murder (now dismissed after an outcry, fortunately). They don't find any drugs, either.


They do more than 20k of these 'raids' a year, often killing people, and in the vast majority of cases not even finding anything.

Similar incident here.


May 15, 2020

The shooting death of Breonna Taylor, 26, by police during a raid at her home in Louisville, Kentucky, has sparked outrage around the country and a demand for answers.

On Thursday, the city's mayor and police chief asked the U.S. Justice Department and the FBI to review the police department's internal investigation into the shooting. The Kentucky attorney general Daniel Cameron also announced that he was asked to serve as a special prosecutor.



The FBI is now investigating the death of Breonna Taylor, who was killed by police during a raid at her home in Louisville, Kentucky.

Taylor, 26, was at home with her boyfriend on March 13 when three plainclothes officers with the Louisville Metro Police Department arrived to execute a search warrant in a drug case. The couple thought their home was being broken into, according to a lawsuit from Taylor's family.


The FBI’s Louisville branch announced Thursday that it was investigating the shooting after numerous media requests.

“The FBI will collect all facts and evidence and will ensure that the investigation is conducted in a fair, thorough, and impartial manner,” the statement said.
 
Similar incident here.


May 15, 2020

The shooting death of Breonna Taylor, 26, by police during a raid at her home in Louisville, Kentucky, has sparked outrage around the country and a demand for answers.

On Thursday, the city's mayor and police chief asked the U.S. Justice Department and the FBI to review the police department's internal investigation into the shooting. The Kentucky attorney general Daniel Cameron also announced that he was asked to serve as a special prosecutor.



The FBI is now investigating the death of Breonna Taylor, who was killed by police during a raid at her home in Louisville, Kentucky.

Taylor, 26, was at home with her boyfriend on March 13 when three plainclothes officers with the Louisville Metro Police Department arrived to execute a search warrant in a drug case. The couple thought their home was being broken into, according to a lawsuit from Taylor's family.


The FBI’s Louisville branch announced Thursday that it was investigating the shooting after numerous media requests.

“The FBI will collect all facts and evidence and will ensure that the investigation is conducted in a fair, thorough, and impartial manner,” the statement said.

It's the same incident. The latter NYT article is about the bigger issue.
 
Post 3022 and 3021 , both way off topic , this is thread is for news related to that floyd guy who died as a result of the fentanyl/pre existing conditions and police action "contributing to" it.

Edit - looks like leftists clouding the already murky water.
 
If you think the autopsy/toxicology report is bait ..........floyd apparently had covid .
If you found that bait like , he apparently had a long violent criminal history , including pointing a gun at a pregnant womans belly.
Doesnt excuse the manner of his death , but he was no angel and a violent history leads people to believe there was resistance to arrest.
 
LOL at the Trumptards whataboutism and pathetic deflection attempts.


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President Trump addresses his supporters including Cops for Trump led by Lt. Bob Kroll, president of the Police Officers Federation of Minneapolis during a campaign rall, Oct. 10, 2019, in Minneapolis


The head of the Minneapolis police union is drawing outrage from critics after calling George Floyd a “violent criminal” and describing the protests over his death as a “terrorist movement.”

Lt. Bob Kroll — who blamed politicians, the media and activists for the ongoing unrest across the country — made the incendiary remarks in a letter to union members that surfaced on social media Monday.

“What is not being told is the violent criminal history of George Floyd,” he wrote, without explaining how the black man’s criminal background would have justified kneeling on his neck for nearly nine minutes as now-former officer Derek Chauvin did last week.

Kroll, a controversial figure who once joined President Trump onstage during a campaign rally, also defended Chauvin and the other three cops who were at the scene during the May 25 incident, saying they were terminated without due process.

The city’s former police chief, Janeé Harteau, is one of several critics condemning Kroll’s remarks this week.

“A disgrace to the badge!,” she tweeted. “This is the battle that myself and others have been fighting against. Bob Kroll turn in your badge!”

Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey described the letter as shocking but “consistent” with Kroll’s “disrespect” for the community.

“For a man who complains so frequently about a lack of community trust and support for the police department, Bob Kroll remains shockingly indifferent to his role in undermining that trust and support,” Frey wrote on Twitter.

“His categorical opposition to reform, his consistent disrespect for civilian leadership, and his lack of empathy for the community have done more to undermine trust in police than any ‘community activist’ ever has.”

@rietrot Spot on here.

Kneeling on a guys throat for 8 min is definitely attempted murder or at least assault, if he then happens to die during that it is definitely real murder.

It's basically a question of murder 1 or 2 in US terms.

Murder 3/manslaughter/ accidental killing is way to lenient and assumes the cop didn't realise his knee was on the guys throat for 8 minutes after he unnecessary pulled him out of the police car and threw him on the ground
 
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The head of the Minneapolis police union is drawing outrage from critics after calling George Floyd a “violent criminal” and describing the protests over his death as a “terrorist movement.”

That's nice. Fascinating distraction.

So where is George Floyd actually? Who is George Floyd? What is the actual identity of the deceased and is anybody actually dead at all? Do you even have a single picture or DNA proof to back up any of your claims that any of the events actually unfolded the way you or the media describe?
 
Deltona today .... peaceful howdy doody - the weather held back surprisingly.
Bear in mind, Chauvin has a second home in Orange City - about 5 miles away ....

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The President's shocking description of demonstrators comes as he continues to lean into his strongman approach to the ongoing Floyd protests

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President Donald Trump on Thursday shared a letter on Twitter that referred to the peaceful protesters who were forcibly dispersed from a park near the White House on Monday evening as "terrorists."

The letter from veteran attorney and former Trump lawyer John Dowd appears to be addressed to former Secretary of Defense James Mattis and rebuts Mattis' Wednesday statement castigating Trump's response to the nationwide protests after the death of George Floyd at the hands of a Minneapolis police officer.

"The phony protesters near Lafayette were not peaceful and are not real," Dowd's letter claimed, without citing any evidence. "They are terrorists using idle hate filled students to burn and destroy. They were abusing and disrespecting the police when the police were preparing the area for the 1900 curfew."

CNN has reached out to the White House for comment on the description of the protesters as "terrorists."

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