George Floyd death

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rambo919 said:
No just Spain collectively, with a statute of limitations. Same rule for everyone.
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Interesting.

Apparently all Spanish white people, collectively, can be blamed for the rape and pillage of South America, albeit within a statute of limitations.

It follows therefore - using your own logic - that all American white people, collectively, can be blamed for slavery, albeit within a statute of limitations.

It further follows - again, your logic - that all South African white people, collectively, can be blamed for apartheid, within a statute of limitations.

But all the way through this thread you have been arguing the opposite. Which logical conclusion is correct, rambo?

Or does the "same rule for everyone" only apply to a specific subset of "everyone"?
 
Chris_the_Brit said:
In contrast to 52 years ago, the notable difference today is that no one seems to have any hope that things can actually change. In place of the campaigns for structural changes, marches for massive investment and effort, we get little performances where blacks express anger and contrite whites apologise tearfully to them. No one feels that anything will change but it makes them all feel better. African-Americans will go back to their ghettos, face joblessness, drugs, poverty and a hostile police force, while whites slip back into their offices and suburbs.
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He sees what he wants to see. Or what he wants you to think you see.
 
You limp-wristed selfsuckers still going on about racism? Fentanyl Floyd was a violent criminal who was on a lot of drugs. This does not excuse his murder though.

The current public outcry is ironic in that they care more about a dead criminal rather than their own country bleeding them dry with taxes and unemployment. Don't be fooled by this - it exists to draw attention away from other more serious matters.
 
Shaun108 said:
You limp-wristed selfsuckers still going on about racism? Fentanyl Floyd was a violent criminal who was on a lot of drugs. This does not excuse his murder though.

The current public outcry is ironic in that they care more about a dead criminal rather than their own country bleeding them dry with taxes and unemployment. Don't be fooled by this - it exists to draw attention away from other more serious matters.
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I usually don't know how to react to you, but you really have to respect the effort.
 
Randhir said:
People protesting murder by police = Children

People protesting their right to get haircuts = Patriots

OK
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Their right to open up their own business, but obviously such things as business is difficult to understand for a communist.
 
scudsucker said:
Interesting.

Apparently all Spanish white people, collectively, can be blamed for the rape and pillage of South America, albeit within a statute of limitations.

It follows therefore - using your own logic - that all American white people, collectively, can be blamed for slavery, albeit within a statute of limitations.

It further follows - again, your logic - that all South African white people, collectively, can be blamed for apartheid, within a statute of limitations.
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Group responsibility has always existed, the inheritance of guilt for groups have always existed, the correct measure of guilt must be justly applied instead of the convenient one, the same rules apply for everyone.

If whites are guilty of apratheid blacks are guilty of the crime epidemic, if blacks are not guilty of the crime epidemic then whites are not guilty of apartheid..... pick one you cant mix as you want to.

But all the way through this thread you have been arguing the opposite. Which logical conclusion is correct, rambo?

Or does the "same rule for everyone" only apply to a specific subset of "everyone"?
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Your habit of over simplification is not surprising by now, you care more for effect than honesty.

I have never argued that there is no collective white guilt for apartheid, I have argued that the measure of guilt claimed is incorrect both in strength and accuracy. For any actual wrong done I will apologise as far as is my inherited duty, grown people throwing temper tantrums or wanting to live in fantasy worlds though I only have disgust for.
 
rambo919 said:
No just Spain collectively, with a statute of limitations. Same rule for everyone.
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Spain (A country in Europe) in the case of the conquistadors and BLACKS (entire group of people spanning an entire continent, as well as millions more in the diaspora) in the case of thugs described above? How does this work? Show me logic in this argument.

Also, how does statute of limitations apply here?
 
rietrot said:
Their right to open up their own business, but obviously such things as business is difficult to understand for a communist.
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They don't, they'd rather throw tantrums because the social grants the employees of those businesses are paying for with their tax money is too little or something. Creating jobs which feeds families, enable people to live healthy balanced lives is not patriotic in the socialist world view. Throwing tantrums while not getting their way is.
 
ForceFate said:
Spain (A country in Europe) in the case of the conquistadors and BLACKS (entire group of people spanning an entire continent, as well as millions more in the diaspora) in the case of thugs described above? How does this work? Show me logic in this argument.

Also, how does statute of limitations apply here?
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Now you are being daft on purpose, you know I never meant blacks outside of the country who were never involved. You also know I find this all blacks are brothers nonsense the height of stupidity.

And with the last one you are just plain insulting my intelligence.

I realize you think you are a superior being in both morals and intelligence but really now..... at least hide it a bit better.
 
ForceFate said:
While still on US police matters, I saw this on Reddit.
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Broke his jaw because he had an attitude while black. Goes back to this:

Randhir said:
Works both ways. You can't demonise a community, murder its citizens, frame people etc, and then expect the community to trust you.
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Why would people trust the police if this is how they behave?
 
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