George Floyd death

[pinball wizard]

When was Antifa formed?

1932

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifaschistische_Aktion

 

[scudsucker]

The people preaching Gentle George beg to disagree

Quite a few media are also selling that spiel

Oh yes? Which ones?

 

[Unhappy1]

If you’re a SJW that takes pleasure in seeing what is happening in US and around the world on the back of George Floyd’s memory you are lower than pond scum and deserve everything that is coming to you.

Mess with the bull long enough and you will get the horns. Only so much the LEO’s are going to take and by then it will be to late.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1270440830998925312

We are the victims say the guys dishing out beatings

 

[ShaunSA]

Oh yes? Which ones?

See my subsequent edit

 

[Nod]

1932

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifaschistische_Aktion

From the article:

Antifaschistische Aktion (German: [ˌantifaˈʃɪstɪʃə ʔakˈtsi̯oːn]), commonly known under its abbreviation Antifa (German: [ˈantifaː]), was a militant anti-fascist organisation in Weimar Republic started by members of the Communist Party of Germany (KPD) that existed from 1932 to 1933. It was primarily active as a KPD campaign during the 1932 elections and was described by the KPD as a "red united front under the leadership of the only anti-fascist party, the KPD".[1] Under the leadership of the committed Stalinist Ernst Thälmann, the KPD viewed fascism primarily as the final stage of capitalism rather than as a specific movement or group, and therefore applied the term to all other parties. The front focused largely on attacking the KPD's main adversary, the centre-left Social Democratic Party of Germany, whom they referred to as social fascists and regarded as the "main pillar of the dictatorship of Capital."[2]

In the postwar era the historical organisation inspired new groups and networks, known as the wider Antifa movement, many of which use the aesthetics of the historical Antifaschistische Aktion, especially its abbreviated name "Antifa" and a modified version of its logo. During the Cold War the Antifaschistische Aktion had a dual legacy in East Germany and West Germany, respectively: in the east it was considered part of the history and heritage of the KPD's successor, the East German Communist Party; in the west its aesthetics and name were embraced by West German Maoists and later autonomists from the 1970s.

So basically a movement by communist parties to stamp out the opposition?

 

[pinball wizard]

From the article:

So basically a movement by communist parties to stamp out the opposition?

The article goes on to mention how modern day antifa has nothing to do with this, but I'm pretty sure some antifa wanker slipped that in anyway, cause they seem about 100% identical to me.

 

[Sideshow Bob]

Everyone else got $1200

Thanks - then it is fine. I was wondering how come native indians only got 1000 dollars and no one else. I think someone just tried to push a specific narrative on that one. I don't understand why one has to lie just because one is supporting trump. I mean why not just keep supporting trump at the same time keep one's honesty intact?

 

[Azbubu]

I mean why not just keep supporting trump at the same time keep one's honesty intact?

Because they’re mutually exclusive?

But that could just be my TDS.

 

[Sideshow Bob]

We are the victims say the guys dishing out beatings

I am paraphrasing a respectable musical genius here but perhaps "Blacks were the architects of these beatings" ?

 

[w1z4rd]

Both communists and allies fought ww2 against fascists. It was the one thing they agreed on. Old school antifa

 

[Jabulani22]

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is police brutality more race or class based ?

take wealthier areas be it brentwood in los angeles or manhatten in ny.
or hurlingham and hyde park locally.

police seem to act with restraint knowing the locals will "lawyer up" within minutes, whereas in poorer areas the police know the locals lack the means to instantly lawyer up.

assume floyd were a black wall street banker or broker - would the same scenario have gone down ?

If he was a wall street guy with bags of money , chances are good that cops would have shown restraint.
The only things people respect is power and money nowdays ,

The outcry is about the manner in which he was killed. I don't think anyone believes he was a saint.

There's an outcry over covid 19 ,fentanyl , meth ,health conditions and their interaction with police subduing suspects ?
That's some pretty specific outrage.

 

[scudsucker]

That's some pretty specific outrage.

Not quite as specific as your attempt to deflect from what you know is the actual cause of the outrage.

Also, Jabs, the space goes after the comma.

 

[buka001]

From the article:

So basically a movement by communist parties to stamp out the opposition?

Remind me what that opposition was doing at the time and what they eventually did?

 

[Nod]

Remind me what that opposition was doing at the time and what they eventually did?

I'm talking about political opposition, or are you referring to the shop owners getting their businesses torched?

 

[cerebus]

That's some pretty specific outrage.

I think they're specifically outraged about the video where the officer asphyxiated him to death for 9 minutes by kneeling on his neck while he begged for his life, asked for his mother, and gurgled into oblivion, while the officer tried to shove away concerned passers-by

 

[Techne]

 

[TysonRoux]

I am paraphrasing a respectable musical genius here but perhaps "Blacks were the architects of these beatings" ?

Here's another musical genius very pertinent to the current protests.

Livin' On The Edge by Aerosmith - Songfacts

Livin' On The Edge by Aerosmith song meaning, lyric interpretation, video and chart position

www.songfacts.com

This song talks about how the world is a crazy place, but people remain stuck in their routines and refuse to change. According to the Aerosmith autobiography Walk This Way, the song was inspired by the Los Angeles riots of 1992, which took place after the white police officers accused of beating the black motorist Rodney King were acquitted.

The lyric, "If you can judge a wise man by the color of his skin then mister, you're a better man than I" comes from the song "You're a Better Man Than I"

Reviewing Lyrics And Living On The Edge | Johnny Fonts

You can't help yourself from reviewing a rock ode by Aerosmith.

www.johnnyfonts.com

 

[ForceFate]

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If he was a wall street guy with bags of money , chances are good that cops would have shown restraint.
The only things people respect is power and money nowdays ,

There's an outcry over covid 19 ,fentanyl , meth ,health conditions and their interaction with police subduing suspects ?
That's some pretty specific outrage.

Had he lived and gone to prison, general feeling would've been that of disdain. It's a joke to many people but it could've been anyone. It's not about the man or his misdemeanours but the police poor execution (/shrug) of his arrest.

 

[thestaggy]

Both communists and allies fought ww2 against fascists. It was the one thing they agreed on. Old school antifa

Please don't push this narrative.

Socialists were divided in the 1930s. There was a strong element of pacifism in the socialist movement, for example in Britain's Independent Labour Party. The commitment to pacifism, however, was balanced by militant anti-fascism. During its Popular Front period, the Comintern allied with other anti-fascist parties, including right-wing parties. This policy was terminated by the Comintern when the Soviet Union signed a non-aggression pact with Hitler in August 1939.

The Communist front organizations opposed the war during the period of the Nazi-Soviet pact. Most dutifully followed orders from Moscow. In 1940, Britain's Daily Worker referred to the Allied war effort as "the Anglo-French imperialist war machine."[11] At the same time, Joseph Stalin ordered a series of military attacks on Poland, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and Romania. He used communist parties and front groups to oppose the war and military preparations to prepare for the war in other countries so the Allies (Britain and France) were less able to resist aggression and to keep the US out of the war.

In the US, organizations like the American Peace Mobilization and veterans of the Abraham Lincoln Brigade protested in opposition to the war, conscription, and the Lend-Lease Act. They said of Lend-Lease, "Roosevelt needs its dictatorial powers to further his aim of carving out of a warring world, the American Empire so long desired by the Wall Street money lords."[12]

Communist parties around the world reversed course when Germany invaded the Soviet Union on June 22, 1941, and then advocated that material support be extended to the Soviets.

A small number of socialists (but very few Comintern members, who obeyed Moscow) continued to oppose the war. Leon Trotsky had drawn up the Proletarian Military Policy, calling for opposition to the war and support for industrial action during it. Left communists took a similar position, as did many anarchists.[citation needed]

Some communist-led organizations with links to the Comintern opposed the war during the period of the Hitler-Stalin pact but then backed it after Germany invaded the Soviet Union[citation needed]. However, the most popular communist organization in the US at the time, the Communist Party of the USA, firmly maintained an anti-fascist outlook on intervention throughout WWII, basing their policies on the need for a Popular Front against fascism.[13][14]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposition_to_World_War_II#cite_note-14

Left-wing was largely okay with the fascists/Nazis until the Nazis tread on them, then and only then were the Nazis bad. The Soviet Union had a political agreement with Nazi Germany that split Europe between them. Soviet oil was fuelling German tanks as they smashed their way through western Europe. Heck, without trade with the Soviets, Germany would not have had enough resources to supply the invasion of the Soviet Union itself. The Soviets secretly aided the Germans in the early development of their tanks, so they were aware of the fact that Nazi Germany was violating Versailles.

Britain almost immediately enforced a trade blockade on Germany when they attacked Poland, but the Soviets would be open for business for the next two-years, the literal lifeline of the German war machine in terms of strategic resources.

Global left-wing was also perfectly fine with communist expansion through force, so lets hold back on the altruism as well.

 

[buka001]

I'm talking about political opposition, or are you referring to the shop owners getting their businesses torched?

Yes, who was the political opposition to Antifa in 1932? What were they doing at this time?

What did they eventually do?