George Floyd death

[rietrot]

Police abuse against minorities, perhaps?

There isn't any police abuse against minorities.
When the 2A folk like the bundy's stand up against the state's overreach(they won in the end btw.) they are ridiculed for it.
And now a hypocrite like randir ask where are they, why aren't they with the criminals and looters, when they are out their protecting their property.

 

[aleksandar]

In every political system or human grouping: "Homo homini lupus est"
When it comes to survival, food, protection of your family or group we all end up with basic emotions.
I was always like that and it always will be.
We did put man on the moon but love, greed, hatred, jealously are present as they were at the dawn of humanity.

We can attempt to make more just system but that requires work, cooler heads and bit of introspection.
Who we really are, with all our faults and weaknesses.

Unfortunately with today's media, social activists all around normal person can not express how he feels, what he thinks and how we could go forward.
Risk is too great that facts will be twisted, truth will be fabrication and fabrication will be truth so we are slipping into self censorship where few percents of extremists from both sides get 99% of media coverage.

One thing is for sure if we erase history we will have nothing to learn from and for sure we will repeat same mistakes.

 

[Vorastra]

100% agreed. My point was though that minorities are disproportionately affected.

Probably because they disproportionately commit crime?

 

[RanzB]

So what do you expect the conservatives to do.

I expect from them the same thing I always expect from them.

Nothing.

 

[rietrot]

100% agreed. My point was though that minorities are disproportionately affected.

No they are not.

 

[SoldierMan]

100% agreed. My point was though that minorities are disproportionately affected.

Blacks perpetrate a disproportionate amount of crime compared to their population numbers. It's just stats that's all.

 

[SoldierMan]

I expect from them the same thing I always expect from them.

Nothing.

That's a terrible quote-mine!

But it shows quite clearly that you have nothing to say to all the points I made.

You have nothing to say but the hollow mouthings of a coward, looking to save face. You failed.

 

[RanzB]

And now a hypocrite like randir ask where are they, why aren't they with the criminals and looters, when they are out their protecting their property.

Yeah, coz remember when they were protesting police brutality before the riots happened?

Me neither.

 

[Sinbad]

Probably because they disproportionately commit crime?

Why is that, though?

 

[RanzB]

That's a terrible quote-mine!

But it shows quite clearly that you have nothing to say to all the points I made.

You have nothing to say but the hollow mouthings of a coward, looking to save face. You failed.

Shame, sounds like you need a safe space. If you don't want me to quote mine, don't straw man my positions then make a whinging post about what you think my position on something is.

So what do you expect the conservatives to do. Roll up to the White House or the local police station and take over like the current lot have done??

Yeah right then YOU would be calling them terrorists, I guarantee you.

 

[RanzB]

Why is that, though?

They're stopped more, investigated more, targeted by the police etc etc. There's also the matter of economic disparity and horribly mismanaged policies by both parties.

On top of that, I wouldn't trust police stats for anything. Just a simple thing like everyone being armed with video cameras these days shows what untrustworthy, lying cunts the police can be.

 

[rietrot]

Why is that, though?

Largest amount of fatherless amongst all groups. Thanks to handouts that single mothers get from the government so there is an incentive not to get married, plus general gang culture.
Some people that succeed in a boring way. (Not a boller or gangster) are considered oreos or uncle toms.

 

[SoldierMan]

Shame, sounds like you need a safe space. If you don't want me to quote mine, don't straw man my positions then make a whinging post about what you think my position on something is.

Oh enough of you already.

Quote-mining is for trolls. I know your type, forever arguing, going in circles and lying. I'm done with your disingenuous rubbish masquerading as debate.

 

[wingnut771]

Do you know that a white guy was killed in almost the exact same scenario as Floyd. No outrage there though..... he was white though.

Do you know that blacks are killed by BLACK cops as much as white cops?

The police are militarised. That's the bottom line. That is the problem. They see the people as the enemy, not those whom they need to Protect and Serve. Notice how that slogan was done away with.

a law unto themselves.

 

[RanzB]

Largest amount of fatherless amongst all groups. Thanks to handouts that single mothers get from the government so there is an insensitive incentive to get married, plus general gang culture.
Some people that succeed in a boring way. (Not a boller or gangster) are considered oreos or uncle toms.

Also some valid reasons. Toxic culture definitely plays a part.

 

[rietrot]

They're stopped more, investigated more, targeted by the police etc etc. There's also the matter of economic disparity and horribly mismanaged policies by both parties.

On top of that, I wouldn't trust police stats for anything. Just a simple thing like everyone being armed with video cameras these days shows what untrustworthy, lying cunts the police can be.

And like what Randhir pointed out here.

The victim mentally that has taken hold. Because obviously if police arrest a gangster for being a gangster it is because the police are racist.

 

[RanzB]

Oh enough of you already.

Quote-mining is for trolls. I know your type, forever arguing, going in circles and lying. I'm done with your disingenuous rubbish masquerading as debate.

Shame, sounds like you need a safe space.

Shame, definitely needs a safe space.

Happy to straw man and whinge, but gets crybaby when called on it.

 

[RanzB]

And like what Randhir pointed out here.

The victim mentally mentalitythat has taken hold. Because obviously if police arrest a gangster for being a gangster it is because the police are racist.

Lol. As if the incel/religious/white power community that a lot of you have become don't have a victim mentality.

Imagine whining that white Christian straight men are victimised when Trump is literally the President. And Pence is the VP. And on and on and on.

 

[SoldierMan]

Shame, definitely needs a safe space.

Happy to straw man and whinge, but gets crybaby when called on it.

No, just don't like disingenuous trolls.

 

[Emjay]

No, but would you like to?

Let me guess, you'll find a reason for that too? Interesting to hear your hot-take that isn't backed by the very same entity that is being proven again and again to be liars and thugs.

Among those whose most recent contact was police-initiated, blacks (5.2%) and Hispanics (5.1%) were more likely than whites (2.4%), and males (4.4%) were more likely than females (1.8%), to experience the threat or use of physical force by police.

So 5% of interactions with black people wherein threats are used or violence make all the police racist?

Ok, then.

Two percent of U.S. residents who had contact with police experienced threats or use of force. Among those whose most recent contact was police-initiated, blacks (5.2%) and Hispanics (5.1%) were more likely than whites (2.4%), and males (4.4%) were more likely than females (1.8%), to experience the threat or use of physical force by police.

Why is it that men are over-represented in this sample?

I know. It must be because they are sexist! Duh.