George Floyd death

[Craig_]

George Floyd died of asphyxia, private post-mortem finds

African-American man whose death sparked protests died due to police officers' actions, examiners say.

www.bbc.com

George Floyd, the African-American man whose death has sparked civil unrest in the US, died from asphyxia (lack of oxygen), a private autopsy has found.

Anyone that saw that video would have expected this, expect Jabu. But I'm a few pages behind so must probably still get to the post where he admits being wrong.

 

[Jabulani22]

You are missing the point the police do not get to act as judge jury and executioner.

Never said they can , you missed my point , toxicology shows more info and can assist in seeing what killed him.

 

[wingnut771]

Never said they can , you missed my point , toxicology shows more info and can assist in seeing what killed him.

toxicology is irrelevant imho, the police should assume everybody has a weak heart.

 

[Jabulani22]

Anyone that saw that video would have expected this, expect Jabu. But I'm a few pages behind so must probably still get to the post where he admits being wrong.

Contributed to , as in assisted in his death , with drugs and heart conditions.
Contributed to.

 

[rietrot]

toxicology is irrelevant imho, the police should assume everybody has a weak heart.

No they shouldn't. They also shouldn't knee on someone's throat for 10 minutes.

 

[Jabulani22]

toxicology is irrelevant imho, the police should assume everybody has a weak heart.

Should they assume everyone is on fentanyl ?

 

[Pegasus]

toxicology is irrelevant imho, the police should assume everybody has a weak heart.

From my many years of watching tv, I reckon that it could be used to mitigate the charges getting him less time in the slammer.

 

[Vorastra]

toxicology is irrelevant imho, the police should assume everybody has a weak heart.

Even the ones resisting arrest.

 

[wingnut771]

No they shouldn't. They also shouldn't knee on someone's throat for 10 minutes.

i don't think you read my post properly.

 

[wingnut771]

From my many years of watching tv, I reckon that it could be used to mitigate the charges getting him less time in the slammer.

standing on someones neck for 10 mins should counteract that.

 

[Moosedrool]

Contributed to , as in assisted in his death , with drugs and heart conditions.
Contributed to.

Even if he had some underlying condition or substance abuse which might have made the asphyxiation more deadly than a healthy normal human being would've experienced. The dude chocked him with his knee for 9 minutes where he begged and pleaded he can't breath. He then continued a few minutes after George was unconscious.

I'm not sure why this argument even exists.

 

[wingnut771]

Even the ones resisting arrest.

was he resisting for the 10 mins in that video?

 

[Pegasus]

standing on someones neck for 10 mins should counteract that.

Example:
10 years for the neck thing and minus 2 years for the drugs.
So 8 years.

 

[Vorastra]

No they shouldn't. They also shouldn't knee on someone's throat for 10 minutes.

Just me or does the time keep going up.

 

[Pegasus]

Just me or does the time keep going up.

rounding

 

[Craig_]

Contributed to , as in assisted in his death , with drugs and heart conditions.
Contributed to.

If he was being violent, I would've understood them man handling the guy, but he was very subdued actually. That pig kept his knee on the guys neck for 8+minutes, that's much more than just contributing. That's like saying me stabbing you with a knife in your heart contributed to your death, no **** it did yes.

It's still murder.

 

[Pegasus]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1267700399391334406

 

[Jabulani22]

Even if he had some underlying condition or substance abuse which might have made the asphyxiation more deadly than a healthy normal human being would've experienced. The dude chocked him with his knee for 9 minutes where he begged and pleaded he can't breath. He then continued a few minutes after George was unconscious.

I'm not sure why this argument even exists.

You aren't sure why people want all the facts in order to assign guilt and or consider effects and interaction between them ?

 

[Jabulani22]

If he was being violent, I would've understood them man handling the guy, but he was very subdued actually. That pig kept his knee on the guys neck for 8+minutes, that's much more than just contributing. That's like saying me stabbing you with a knife in your heart contributed to your death, no **** it did yes.

It's still murder.

Murder is a bridge too far without all the relevant facts.( At this point)
The cops did say they battled for ten minutes trying to get him into the cruiser.
Sounds like resistance but I'm sure it will come out.

 

[wingnut771]

Example:
10 years for the neck thing and minus 2 years for the drugs.
So 8 years.

or 25 years because we wouldn't be here in the first place if not for the neck thing.