George Floyd death

[Vorastra]

rounding

I assume when we get to 11, 12, or 13, it'll still be rounding in an upwardly direction.

 

[Vorastra]

or 25 years because we wouldn't be here in the first place if not for the neck thing.

What crime will he be charged with for it to be 25 years?

 

[Craig_]

Murder is a bridge too far without all the relevant facts.( At this point)
The cops did say they battled for ten minutes trying to get him into the cruiser.
Sounds like resistance but I'm sure it will come out.

They were 4 + trained cops against one man, how difficult could it be when he was even sitting down at some stage. Cuff his hands and his feet and carry him in. Done.

 

[Pegasus]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1267599019305349120

 

[wingnut771]

Just me or does the time keep going up.

sorry, was just rounding off. 9 mins then. david blaine would have survived.

 

[Jabulani22]

They were 4 + trained cops against one man, how difficult could it be when he was even sitting down at some stage. Cuff his hands and his feet and carry him in. Done.

Not debating that they were idiots who could have done it way better.
My point is the death cant be pinned on the cops 100% if he was on a substance which could contribute to his death and had underlying conditions doing the same .
And potentially the substance aggravated the underlying conditions .

 

[Craig_]

Not debating that they were idiots who could have done it way better.
My point is the death cant be pinned on the cops 100% if he was on a substance which could contribute to his death and had underlying conditions doing the same .
And potentially the substance aggravated the underlying conditions .

OK, let's then just pin it on them 90+%,even though I believe very few people could survive being choked with a knee on the neck for 8 minutes.

 

[wingnut771]

What crime will he be charged with for it to be 25 years?

not sure on american law, just sounds appropriate. or his sentence should be a knee in his neck for 9 mins.

 

[SlinkyMike]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1267599019305349120

Bloody China! I fscking knew it!

 

[Jabulani22]

OK, let's then just pin it on them 90+%,even though I believe very few people could survive being choked with a knee on the neck for 8 minutes.

its pretty standard practice , most fighting styles show that the body goes where the head goes and as such are tailored to that .
Remember all those MMA deaths from choke out ...............oh wait

 

[Pegasus]

Bloody China! I fscking knew it!

Nope.
Watch the whole clip.

 

[Vorastra]

They were 4 + trained cops against one man, how difficult could it be when he was even sitting down at some stage. Cuff his hands and his feet and carry him in. Done.

Not saying that Floyd was on PCP but people who are on PCP and then go on a rampage are pretty much unstoppable.

Tasers seemingly have no effect. And I can even link you a body cam video (may take me a bit to find as it was a while ago) of a man on PCP getting shot multiple times and just carries on running towards a policeman and still manages to stab him.

This is why police are in groups for arrests.

 

[Craig_]

its pretty standard practice , most fighting styles show that the body goes where the head goes and as such are tailored to that .
Remember all those MMA deaths from choke out ...............oh wait

You're reaching now, choking with your arm and putting the full weight of an adult man on someone's neck is not the same thing.

 

[Aghori]

It's a complicated situation. George had multiple underlying conditions and was intoxicated at the time of his arrest. He had multiple previous criminal acts against his name. Did the police contribute to his death? Yes. Were the police 100% liable for his death? No.

That being said, the media backlash and incitement subsequent riots and looting is just an excuse for barbarians to act like barbarians. A strong president would instruct the armed forces to immediately stop the rioting with permission to use lethal force in some instances. It will send a message that lawlessness is not to be tolerated. Thieves will always flourish in a place where there are weak leaders.

 

[wingnut771]

Not saying that Floyd was on PCP but people who are on PCP and then go on a rampage are pretty much unstoppable.

Tasers seemingly have no effect. And I can even link you a body cam video (may take me a bit to find as it was a while ago) of a man on PCP getting shot multiple times and just carries on running towards a policeman and still manages to stab him.

This is why police are in groups for arrests.

apples and oranges imho.

 

[Craig_]

Not saying that Floyd was on PCP but people who are on PCP and then go on a rampage are pretty much unstoppable.

Tazers seemingly have no effect. And I can even link you a body cam video (may take me a bit to find as it was a while ago) of a man on PCP getting shot multiple times and just carries on running towards a policeman and still manages to stab him.

This is why police are in groups for arrests.

I've seen videos of people not even flinching when being tazed, this guy was calm and subdued. Maybe that was because of being high on something. Because any normal person especially seeing how strong he looked, would've reacted violently to being choked to death.

 

[Jabulani22]

You're reaching now, choking with your arm and putting the full weight of an adult man on someone's neck is not the same thing.

You are aware there is more than one style of choke out right ?
It doesnt take 8 mins either usually .

 

[Craig_]

You are aware there is more than one style of choke out right ?
It doesnt take 8 mins either usually .

So keeping the full weight of an adult man on someones neck for 8 minutes is perfectly survivable for anyone not on some drug, or with pre-existing conditions?

 

[wingnut771]

Not saying that Floyd was on PCP but people who are on PCP and then go on a rampage are pretty much unstoppable.

Tasers seemingly have no effect. And I can even link you a body cam video (may take me a bit to find as it was a while ago) of a man on PCP getting shot multiple times and just carries on running towards a policeman and still manages to stab him.

This is why police are in groups for arrests.

while on this topic it's bloody hectic, i've seen these vids before, reminds me of a zombie apocalypse.

what about bath salts where they eat other peoples faces off?

 

[wingnut771]

You are aware there is more than one style of choke out right ?
It doesnt take 8 mins either usually .

because he was still getting air, blood flow, not so much.