Getting baby to sleep through

Routine won hands down in my house coupled with being well fed.

Stick to a routine in terms of feeding, napping and bath/sleeptime and you cant go wrong. I noticed early on with my eldest that if she drank her quota of milk for the day, that she slept throughout.

Experiencing the same now with my twins, they mostly sleep through night now when they are not teething.

Note that teething and illness are the exceptions to any of the methods you choose to use.
 
No routine
Baby sleeps in the bed with us
Breastfed baby
I get 7 hours sleep minimum every night (excl the 3 bad nights so far, today is week 6), wife gets around 8 hours (she goes to bed earlier and sleeps in). She (our baby) is already starting to sleep for 4-5 hours at a time during the night with no "training" or whatever from us

This is in stark contrast to a lot of what has been said on here already - ie do what works for you and your unique situation. You can try some of the tips given here, but none are a guaranteed solution
 
Well.... it doesn't suddenly stop at 4 months. It might ease up a bit and you'll adapt and get some routine going, but you're always going to feel sort of wiped out.

Why cant baby humans be like impala? Like running around and able to care for themselves in 24 hours?
 
No routine
Baby sleeps in the bed with us
Breastfed baby
I get 7 hours sleep minimum every night (excl the 3 bad nights so far, today is week 6), wife gets around 8 hours (she goes to bed earlier and sleeps in). She (our baby) is already starting to sleep for 4-5 hours at a time during the night with no "training" or whatever from us

This is in stark contrast to a lot of what has been said on here already - ie do what works for you and your unique situation. You can try some of the tips given here, but none are a guaranteed solution

Love it... I have done many things in my life (Sky diving, Scuba diving, Road cycling etc etc) but in nothing do so many people give you advice than children haha.. and sometimes completely the opposite. Looking forward to it and not taking any advice too seriously but considering them all..

EDIT : Not comparing having a child to any of these but just the amount of advice received.
 
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No routine
Baby sleeps in the bed with us
Breastfed baby
I get 7 hours sleep minimum every night (excl the 3 bad nights so far, today is week 6), wife gets around 8 hours (she goes to bed earlier and sleeps in). She (our baby) is already starting to sleep for 4-5 hours at a time during the night with no "training" or whatever from us

This is in stark contrast to a lot of what has been said on here already - ie do what works for you and your unique situation. You can try some of the tips given here, but none are a guaranteed solution

Your hours does not make sense? if your baby sleeps 4-5 hours and you and wife sleep 7-8 hours, who looks after the baby when she is awake and you and your wife sleeps?
 
Routine or no routine. That is the question. +1 for routine. It work for us. Either way you (sleeping habits) will adjust to her. Routine continues to this day whether bathtime, dinnertime, car seat. It works for us. On baby seat: get one if you don't have one. My daughter have never drove in any car without being strapped in. This is probably the only advice I would stress to any parent.
 
Every child is different. But there are things that you can do to hurt your child's chances of sleeping through.

1) Getting your child used to a dummy or blanky will most likely cause endless trouble if they lose it at night. If they fall asleep with a dummy in and it falls out while they move about, then they wake up and have trouble finding it and putting it back in, they will cry for you to find it for them.
Basically they wake up every 45 minutes or so. At least that is the sleep cycle of deep to shallow sleeping. If they hit shallow sleeping and their mind does the check to see that all is as it was when they fell asleep, they will wake up if the dummy is out. Some kids can create a perfect unconscious suction and keep it in all night, some can't though, so offer dummy at bed time at your own risk.

2) When they are small, don't ignore their cries at night. Under 6 months they are just not equipped to soothe themselves to sleep once they start crying. Any child under 6 months that stops crying after being left to "cry-it-out", is not soothing itself, but rather it is giving up on attempting to get the help it wants. It is essentially losing hope that the parent will come.

2.1) Sometimes they might wake with a little cry and nod back to sleep. Obviously leave them in these cases. But if you can hear that your child is awake and crying, do not wait to go in.



Accept the type of child that you have. If your friend's child sleeps through from 4 weeks old. They got lucky. Trust me when I say that they did nothing special to make that happen. Do not put undue pressure on yourself or your child to sleep through because a friend's child does. Give them as much routine as you can manage, and hope that they find a good sleeping pattern. Whatever sleeping pattern they find though, your lifestyle needs to adapt around it for a few years. If you just accept it, life will be far easier. Fighting against the current will only make you more exhausted.

Congrats though, life is going to be turned on its head, but in a good way.
 
Every child is different. But there are things that you can do to hurt your child's chances of sleeping through.

1) Getting your child used to a dummy or blanky will most likely cause endless trouble if they lose it at night. If they fall asleep with a dummy in and it falls out while they move about, then they wake up and have trouble finding it and putting it back in, they will cry for you to find it for them.
Basically they wake up every 45 minutes or so. At least that is the sleep cycle of deep to shallow sleeping. If they hit shallow sleeping and their mind does the check to see that all is as it was when they fell asleep, they will wake up if the dummy is out. Some kids can create a perfect unconscious suction and keep it in all night, some can't though, so offer dummy at bed time at your own risk.

2) When they are small, don't ignore their cries at night. Under 6 months they are just not equipped to soothe themselves to sleep once they start crying. Any child under 6 months that stops crying after being left to "cry-it-out", is not soothing itself, but rather it is giving up on attempting to get the help it wants. It is essentially losing hope that the parent will come.

2.1) Sometimes they might wake with a little cry and nod back to sleep. Obviously leave them in these cases. But if you can hear that your child is awake and crying, do not wait to go in.



Accept the type of child that you have. If your friend's child sleeps through from 4 weeks old. They got lucky. Trust me when I say that they did nothing special to make that happen. Do not put undue pressure on yourself or your child to sleep through because a friend's child does. Give them as much routine as you can manage, and hope that they find a good sleeping pattern. Whatever sleeping pattern they find though, your lifestyle needs to adapt around it for a few years. If you just accept it, life will be far easier. Fighting against the current will only make you more exhausted.

Congrats though, life is going to be turned on its head, but in a good way.

Don't compare!! When we heard other babies are sleeping right through already we got more downtrodden. Your baby has its own clock for development. unfair on everyone if you go around comparing.
 
Our second should hopedully be hitting the longer sleep mark soon. Doing a good 3/4 hours which is very normal. Our first was similar and then started sleeping through to 6-8 hours after a few months.

It really depends on their needs. Hunger and nappy change and the biggest caused for them to wake up. Comfort has never really been a big factor for us. The odd occasion where they want to be held but most often it's feed or nappy, and don't be shocked if you have to change a nappy before and after a single feed. Our currents done that a few times with us.
 
No routine
Baby sleeps in the bed with us
Breastfed baby
I get 7 hours sleep minimum every night (excl the 3 bad nights so far, today is week 6), wife gets around 8 hours (she goes to bed earlier and sleeps in). She (our baby) is already starting to sleep for 4-5 hours at a time during the night with no "training" or whatever from us

This is in stark contrast to a lot of what has been said on here already - ie do what works for you and your unique situation. You can try some of the tips given here, but none are a guaranteed solution

Ye, I'm just holding my toung reading a lot of what is being said. A lot of people will tell you exactly how to raise your kids. We did co-sleep with breast feeding and it worked well for us.

People go on about routine but I found that if you force the routine too much then you are stuck with it and almost imprisoned. Means that if you ever have to break it then the world ends. People who know us say that our kids is so relaxed and flexible but it could also just be how she is.
Kids will tell you when they are hungry and tired, you just need to learn how to listen for that.
 
Ye, I'm just holding my toung reading a lot of what is being said. A lot of people will tell you exactly how to raise your kids. We did co-sleep with breast feeding and it worked well for us.

People go on about routine but I found that if you force the routine too much then you are stuck with it and almost imprisoned. Means that if you ever have to break it then the world ends.

Hehehe, I know of a few people now stuck in routine / using tricks that should've been once in a whiles but are now habit.

I think the only thing I would say to new parents is don't try that sleep training stuff where you let the child cry themselves to sleep. Like soultax said, the kid is still just as stressed out, it has simply learned not to waste energy on crying.
 
Ye, I'm just holding my toung reading a lot of what is being said. A lot of people will tell you exactly how to raise your kids. We did co-sleep with breast feeding and it worked well for us.

People go on about routine but I found that if you force the routine too much then you are stuck with it and almost imprisoned. Means that if you ever have to break it then the world ends. People who know us say that our kids is so relaxed and flexible but it could also just be how she is.
Kids will tell you when they are hungry and tired, you just need to learn how to listen for that.

Ye what works for each family is totally different. Whether you co-sleep until 18 months or have them in their own room from 2 weeks, it is just about paying attention to the baby really. I will give an example of how we "messed up" with our son and sleep. We learned from the experience and will not make the same mistake with baby no.2.

We would always feed our son a bottle before bed. Then when it was finished he would go in his crib. Sometimes he would fall asleep on us, sometimes not. But he always managed to fall asleep quite comfortably without us in the room if he was still awake.
Then one day he started getting very frustrated with being held and being given the bottle. He pointed at his bed and wanted to go straight in. The mistake that we made was in giving him his bottle to hold in bed himself.
It seemed harmless at the time. But after a while, and a few mild colds/chicken pox infections, he started waking up more frequently at night and always screaming out for a bottle to get him to go back to sleep. He went from waking up once at night for a change and feed, to waking up 2 to 4 times.

We finally got rid of the bottles just after 2yrs old. It was a bit of a struggle, but since then he sleeps through 5 out of 7 nights in a week. Because his wake ups were not for fluid or nourishment, but for assisting him in falling back asleep. We enabled that behaviour which prevented him from trying to find a more balanced night time sleeping pattern. That was not his fault but ours.

In retrospect, we should have attempted to remove the bottles that first night that he showed frustration at being held and fed before bed. It was possibly a sign of being ready to try to sleep on his own and not wanting the bottle.


So in short. If your baby is sleeping through earlier than 6 months, you might be doing one or two things right, but mostly it is the type of baby that you got (Imagine a 90%/10% ratio in favour of the baby). As they age past 6 months, the scale slides more and more into the "parent's fault" side of things. Some of those things are unavoidable, but I think it is worth having a good think about your child's sleeping habits and recognise any bad habits that you may be enabling or promoting.

As far as the OP is concerned though, that is a long way away. Just roll with the punches for now, it is a tough enough job as it is.
 
Well.... it doesn't suddenly stop at 4 months. It might ease up a bit and you'll adapt and get some routine going, but you're always going to feel sort of wiped out.


Can't disagree more.

Is it really such a big drama for people? Or do you just like putting it on?

It seems like tattoos to me where some people will tell everyone how painful it is to make themselves feel better, while it's more of an irritation than a pain.
 
Our third child is still sleeping in bed with us - she goes down in her own bed but then when she wakes we take her with us. The previous two we were very strict about training from the beginning to never sleep with us. We're enjoying the experience of the third much more than the other two and I wish we'd taken this way from the beginning.

I would say that it helped a lot to get a bed rail, because the baby then can sleep against the edge of the bed not right up against MrsC which results in less agitation through the night and fewer night feeds.
 
Can't disagree more.

Is it really such a big drama for people? Or do you just like putting it on?

It seems like tattoos to me where some people will tell everyone how painful it is to make themselves feel better, while it's more of an irritation than a pain.

Okay sunshine, maybe it's just the recurrent batch of illnesses and hospitalisations we've been going through in the last week or so talking, but I'm pretty shattered right now.
 
Ye what works for each family is totally different. Whether you co-sleep until 18 months or have them in their own room from 2 weeks, it is just about paying attention to the baby really. I will give an example of how we "messed up" with our son and sleep. We learned from the experience and will not make the same mistake with baby no.2.

We would always feed our son a bottle before bed. Then when it was finished he would go in his crib. Sometimes he would fall asleep on us, sometimes not. But he always managed to fall asleep quite comfortably without us in the room if he was still awake.
Then one day he started getting very frustrated with being held and being given the bottle. He pointed at his bed and wanted to go straight in. The mistake that we made was in giving him his bottle to hold in bed himself.
It seemed harmless at the time. But after a while, and a few mild colds/chicken pox infections, he started waking up more frequently at night and always screaming out for a bottle to get him to go back to sleep. He went from waking up once at night for a change and feed, to waking up 2 to 4 times.

We finally got rid of the bottles just after 2yrs old. It was a bit of a struggle, but since then he sleeps through 5 out of 7 nights in a week. Because his wake ups were not for fluid or nourishment, but for assisting him in falling back asleep. We enabled that behaviour which prevented him from trying to find a more balanced night time sleeping pattern. That was not his fault but ours.

In retrospect, we should have attempted to remove the bottles that first night that he showed frustration at being held and fed before bed. It was possibly a sign of being ready to try to sleep on his own and not wanting the bottle.



Exact same reason I worry for people who use a dummy as a solution.

We made the mistake of giving her the dummy for only a week or so while sleeping to realise when it pops out she wakes up.


This was only at 8 months or so. No real dummy usage before that and now we only use it once in a blue moon to get her sleeping then take it away.

I cringe when I see people with two year olds in prams with a dummy stuck in their mouth.
 
Okay sunshine, maybe it's just the recurrent batch of illnesses and hospitalisations we've been going through in the last week or so talking, but I'm pretty shattered right now.


Obviously there are rough times. We've had them as well especially as you say around hospital drama.

All I'm trying to say is listen to yourself a little because you make a generally positive thing sound very negative.

Throughout my wife's pregnancy and my daughters birth I've heard countless negatives that make you wonder why you should have kids at all.

Very few ever comment on the great things about it.

The reality is the hard times are maybe 10% of it all, but people project it as the majority which is a behaviour I would like to change in others.
 
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