Getting baby to sleep through

[SauRoNZA]

Our third child is still sleeping in bed with us - she goes down in her own bed but then when she wakes we take her with us. The previous two we were very strict about training from the beginning to never sleep with us. We're enjoying the experience of the third much more than the other two and I wish we'd taken this way from the beginning.

I would say that it helped a lot to get a bed rail, because the baby then can sleep against the edge of the bed not right up against MrsC which results in less agitation through the night and fewer night feeds.

See. You had three so it can't hardly be all that bad can it?

You volunteered twice more after all so it must be great.

Your initial comments don't relay that message at all. Instead it reads like "don't have children, its all pain and suffering".

 

[cerebus]

See. You had three so it can't hardly be all that bad can it?

You volunteered twice more after all so it must be great.

Your initial comments don't relay that message at all. Instead it reads like "don't have children, its all pain and suffering".

You're just a whole mouthful of opinion+assumption now aren't you? I love my kids to bits, each one, and parenting is a humbling and incredible experience, but it gets hectic at times. Like, really, really hectic. Your finances get stretched, you bounce between illnesses, you lose sleep, you have to intermediate between bickering siblings when you're trying to have a family dinner, you collapse in bed after 8 each evening totally wiped out.

 

[SauRoNZA]

You're just a whole mouthful of opinion+assumption now aren't you? I love my kids to bits, each one, and parenting is a humbling and incredible experience, but it gets hectic at times. Like, really, really hectic. Your finances get stretched, you bounce between illnesses, you lose sleep, you have to intermediate between bickering siblings when you're trying to have a family dinner, you collapse in bed after 8 each evening totally wiped out.

No opinion or assumption.

I'm saying watch what you say and how it gets perceived by others so that they DO NOT make incorrect assumptions.

I don't think anyone hates their kids and I didn't imply that you do.

I'm simply saying it's quite easy to believe that because people don't listen to themselves talk.

It's not about you specifically. It's a general statement about parents.

 

[cerebus]

No opinion or assumption.

I'm saying watch what you say and how it gets perceived by others so that they DO NOT make incorrect assumptions.

I don't think anyone hates their kids and I didn't imply that you do.

I'm simply saying it's quite easy to believe that because people don't listen to themselves talk.

It's not about you specifically. It's a general statement about parents.

Why must I watch what I say? I'm not a pro-kid having evangelist. People can make their own minds up and the world seems to have no issues spawning new generations. I'm just speaking from my current, quite stretched-out, experience.

 

[SauRoNZA]

Why must I watch what I say? I'm not a pro-kid having evangelist. People can make their own minds up and the world seems to have no issues spawning new generations. I'm just speaking from my current, quite stretched-out, experience.

Fair enough.





Like I said you were just an example, the comments were about people in general.





I'm generally not a ray of sunshine myself, but in this regard I just find the worldly negativity completely out of place.



I just find people like to give "advice" without giving any by simply putting people down instead of uplifting them in the context.

Potential parents are already stressed enough as it is, no need to tell them their life is over.

 

[Archer]

I cringe when I see people with two year olds in prams with a dummy stuck in their mouth.

*cough* sister in law *cough*
Dummy is the cure for everything from temper tantrums, over tiredness, normal sleep time, getting hurt, everything!! Going to be hell taking that away from their 2 year old I reckon

 

[Archer]

Potential parents are already stressed enough as it is, no need to tell them their life is over.

But are you getting enough sleep?
Gosh, I want to smack people asking me that. It's like they are looking for people to suffer with them in retrospect or something.

 

[RazedInBlack]

Has anyone mentioned duct tape?

 

[SauRoNZA]

*cough* sister in law *cough*
Dummy is the cure for everything from temper tantrums, over tiredness, normal sleep time, getting hurt, everything!! Going to be hell taking that away from their 2 year old I reckon

Yeah.
People often comment how our baby us always so happy.

I think it's because she's the only one that doesn't constantly have a dummy in her mouth so she actually smiles and talks.

 

[Celine]

I have 3 daughters. 1 from my previous marriage and it was strict routine with her. she also had to eat all her vegetables and I tried to instill manners. it didn't work. she never had friends and wasn't a nice child.

with my 2 youngest daughters I ignored all the rules and did it my way. if they woke up during the night I attended to their needs, whatever it may have been. I sat up with them in my arms if need be. I picked them up if they cried and cuddled them. if they didn't want to eat their vegetables then so be it I wasn't going to force them. as a result my 2 youngest daughters are the nicest people you will ever meet. so many adults have complimented me on their manners and how polite they are. they had many friends during their years of school and still have their friends.

to this day I still say it's from the day I bought them home from hospital and changed my plan of bringing them up my way. forget all the rules that the books throw at you. do it they way you want to and if it fits in with your routine then so be it.

 

[SauRoNZA]

But are you getting enough sleep?
Gosh, I want to smack people asking me that. It's like they are looking for people to suffer with them in retrospect or something.

Someone gets it! I thought I was all alone there for a moment.

 

[SauRoNZA]

Has anyone mentioned duct tape?

Lol. Not necessary.

 

[Kosmik]

*cough* sister in law *cough*
Dummy is the cure for everything from temper tantrums, over tiredness, normal sleep time, getting hurt, everything!! Going to be hell taking that away from their 2 year old I reckon

Funny enough neither of my kids are great fans of dummies. Yah, now and then but like 10 minutes and then spit out.

 

[SoulTax]

Not wanting to continue the derail much more, but I had to make this point.

On people moaning about the difficulties of parenting. Or simply noting how exhausted they are at the end of a day, even a good day. Kids have far more energy than us and they will run us rampant with a big smile on their faces all day long.

The exhaustion is always worth it, but I think that the moaning has a definite place in society. There are just far too many people that come at having kids with a "la-la-la let's have a baby" approach. Too many people do not fully understand the amount of sacrifice and exhaustion that you will experience. They see you with your baby, smiling and rolling around with toys on the floor, and think: "Yes, that looks like bliss, I want in on that".

As responsible people it is our duty to attempt to set the expectations of those people that will follow us down the parenting path. And if we scare them into waiting 6 more months because the rest of their life is not quite ready for kids, then I say it is worth the moaning and the "negative" talk.

By simply having these little bundles of smiles around them, we already influence them into having kids sooner than they might otherwise have done. So only good can come from ensuring that they hear a fraction of how challenging and monumental it is to have kids.


I think it is important to differentiate between the people who are moaning for the above reasons, and the ones that are moaning because they actually regret having kids.

I would wager that only a very tiny percentage of the moaners, would actually regret having children. And I would also wager that the majority of those people, either had kids by mistake, or were lulled into having kids because of how amazing and magical, hollywood and the people around them made it look.

So I say it is pretty responsible to have a bit of a moan. And as parents, it is tough to moan about these things, because people seem to have this opinion that moaning about it means you don't love your kids. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Yet we are allowed to moan about our bad day at work, bad day in traffic, bad day at the family braai where the drunk uncle embarrassed himself in front of guests. Why can't we have a therapeutic moan when we have a bad day with the kids? I say it is healthy to do it, instead of keeping emotions bottled up inside.

 

[Zenbaas]

Not wanting to continue the derail much more, but I had to make this point.

On people moaning about the difficulties of parenting. Or simply noting how exhausted they are at the end of a day, even a good day. Kids have far more energy than us and they will run us rampant with a big smile on their faces all day long.

The exhaustion is always worth it, but I think that the moaning has a definite place in society. There are just far too many people that come at having kids with a "la-la-la let's have a baby" approach. Too many people do not fully understand the amount of sacrifice and exhaustion that you will experience. They see you with your baby, smiling and rolling around with toys on the floor, and think: "Yes, that looks like bliss, I want in on that".

As responsible people it is our duty to attempt to set the expectations of those people that will follow us down the parenting path. And if we scare them into waiting 6 more months because the rest of their life is not quite ready for kids, then I say it is worth the moaning and the "negative" talk.

By simply having these little bundles of smiles around them, we already influence them into having kids sooner than they might otherwise have done. So only good can come from ensuring that they hear a fraction of how challenging and monumental it is to have kids.


I think it is important to differentiate between the people who are moaning for the above reasons, and the ones that are moaning because they actually regret having kids.

I would wager that only a very tiny percentage of the moaners, would actually regret having children. And I would also wager that the majority of those people, either had kids by mistake, or were lulled into having kids because of how amazing and magical, hollywood and the people around them made it look.

So I say it is pretty responsible to have a bit of a moan. And as parents, it is tough to moan about these things, because people seem to have this opinion that moaning about it means you don't love your kids. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Yet we are allowed to moan about our bad day at work, bad day in traffic, bad day at the family braai where the drunk uncle embarrassed himself in front of guests. Why can't we have a therapeutic moan when we have a bad day with the kids? I say it is healthy to do it, instead of keeping emotions bottled up inside.

Big fat +1.