Getting better sleep

Always thought sleep apnea was a mostly overweight person or snoring person thing. None of those apply and yet it seems like I've got sleep apnea. Went for an overnight sleep study. Let's see what comes of this. Be nice to stop guessing and trying 100 things.

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Oh cool man. How much was it?
 
Oh cool man. How much was it?
Initial consult usual doctor fee of R650'ish. Overnight is classed as a hospital stay so covered by insurance, not sure yet if there's going to be an excess payment. Will update later in the week with costs of a few things if it helps anyone.

I'm booked for next month for another night with a CPAP machine.

Used this place:
They've been nice to deal with. Even just that first time I got in touch with them I had a long conversation about everything before even going ahead.
 
Can't believe I didn't get this done sooner: Custom made earplugs for sleeping. Those foams ones you buy from the chemist are fine until you roll onto your side then they push into your ear. Total cost R1150 @ audiologist. I used:

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Had some blood tests done, low in B12 and D. D I was surprised at because I spend a decent amount of time most days in the sun & take the occasional D3 supplement. B12 - going for injection tomorrow.

And off to sleep clinic again tonight to get the CPAP experience.

Yay!
 
Also had issues with getting a good nights zzz's then started using Magnesium Glycinate and getting restful sleep.
 
Can't believe I didn't get this done sooner: Custom made earplugs for sleeping. Those foams ones you buy from the chemist are fine until you roll onto your side then they push into your ear. Total cost R1150 @ audiologist. I used:

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Had some blood tests done, low in B12 and D. D I was surprised at because I spend a decent amount of time most days in the sun & take the occasional D3 supplement. B12 - going for injection tomorrow.

And off to sleep clinic again tonight to get the CPAP experience.

Yay!
One of the best earplugs and probably the most comfortable is presstik, R35 for a few years worth..
 
Not sure if just imagination but I feel a bit better after the B12 injection - not so short tempered. Also...

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That's going to take some getting used to. But if I get better sleep I don't really care.

Also just want to add that the sleep lab were great to deal with. Friendly staff all the way through, super helpful (had an issue with Discovery on a claim - messaged them and they said they'd deal with it & did) quick to reply etc.

 
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Also had issues with getting a good nights zzz's then started using Magnesium Glycinate and getting restful sleep.
Do you know how it works?

I use it too but couldn't find any studies where the findings were conclusive that it aids sleep. Yet, for some reason it just works.
 
Perhaps the issue is low magnesium levels then.
Asked Pathcare when I was there if I can just walk in without doctor referral. They said for tests that don't require fasting or special procedure you can just come in yourself. So might be worth it if you suspect you're low. You'll just need to figure out the results but you can usually get by with some googling.
 
Asked Pathcare when I was there if I can just walk in without doctor referral. They said for tests that don't require fasting or special procedure you can just come in yourself. So might be worth it if you suspect you're low. You'll just need to figure out the results but you can usually get by with some googling.
Got blood tests coming up in January but already suspect if the iron is low again, so will the magnesium be low too.

It's menopause causing health issues due to hormone fluctuations. Men can also struggle with low magnesium due to age-related hormonal changes.
 
Yeah, I've noticed this too. Definitely worthwhile. I think the only gotcha is your med aid may not pay if you want that. Do you use their mobile app for results? Works well if you discount the terrible auth process.
*EDIT* I mean Ampath... don't know if Pathcare have a mobile app.
Not sure about Pathcare. Think they just mail the results. But ja after these low b12 levels I think I might try make these tests a more regular (once a year, every 2 years or whatever) occurrence. It's not that expensive and it's pretty quick & accessible.
 
Do you know how it works?

I use it too but couldn't find any studies where the findings were conclusive that it aids sleep. Yet, for some reason it just works.
Wife does the clinical studies so she recommended it. Cant say that it has'nt helped with a good nights rest.
 
Seems like both nights of the sleep study were fully covered by Discovery (hospital plan).

CPAP machine not covered, but if you have a savings plan it can be deducted from that.

Anyway. Want to buy a wearable to track sleep so I can match that data with the data from the CPAP and start adjusting settings. Using this site for data visualisation:

 
Seems like both nights of the sleep study were fully covered by Discovery (hospital plan).

CPAP machine not covered, but if you have a savings plan it can be deducted from that.

Anyway. Want to buy a wearable to track sleep so I can match that data with the data from the CPAP and start adjusting settings. Using this site for data visualisation:

curious to find out your current experience using a cpap and has your sleep improved?
 
curious to find out your current experience using a cpap and has your sleep improved?
Eish. December with holidays I was all over the place and put the CPAP on hold with the intention of starting again in Jan. It's mid-Feb and I've just two days ago set it up again but it's been so kak hot the idea of a mask on my face...

So ja I'm trying to get back into the habit of wearing it.

What I did notice when using it is that even though I didn't wake up feeling miraculously better, the tiredness I felt was a normal tiredness, as opposed to this bone-deep existential kind of tiredness that accumulates when you sleep kak. I also think I need to give it more time - for me learning to sleep with a mask on my face and the weird things that happen (seal breaking - air shooting into your eye, learning to keep your mouth closed else air comes rushing out of it) took a bit of time, so maybe I was just looking for an excuse to set it aside. It's not an easy thing to get used to.

You think you might have sleep apnea?
 
Eish. December with holidays I was all over the place and put the CPAP on hold with the intention of starting again in Jan. It's mid-Feb and I've just two days ago set it up again but it's been so kak hot the idea of a mask on my face...

So ja I'm trying to get back into the habit of wearing it.

What I did notice when using it is that even though I didn't wake up feeling miraculously better, the tiredness I felt was a normal tiredness, as opposed to this bone-deep existential kind of tiredness that accumulates when you sleep kak. I also think I need to give it more time - for me learning to sleep with a mask on my face and the weird things that happen (seal breaking - air shooting into your eye, learning to keep your mouth closed else air comes rushing out of it) took a bit of time, so maybe I was just looking for an excuse to set it aside. It's not an easy thing to get used to.

You think you might have sleep apnea?
I was recently diagnosed with severe sleep apnea (AHI 42), and in hindsight it explains a lot of what I’ve been dealing with over the past 18 months.


I started getting tired more often, more irritable, and my recovery from intense exercise became much worse. I train regularly, and previously I would recover quickly, but that just stopped happening. My short-term memory was also noticeably worse, and no matter how long I slept, I never felt properly rested when waking up. Initially I just assumed it was age or stress.


I did all the normal checks — blood tests, ECG, etc. — and everything came back fine. My new GP, after listening to the symptoms, suggested a sleep study almost immediately.


The first test was done using a ring device overnight. Based on those results, medical aid approved a CPAP titration trial, and I was sent home with a CPAP machine for two nights. After the first night, I felt like a new human being. Properly rested, clear-headed, and calm. The second night was the same.


Unfortunately I had to return the machine while waiting for the sleep specialist to finalise my settings, which was frustrating after feeling the difference.


Last night was my first night with my own auto CPAP machine. Once again, I woke up refreshed. My AHI dropped from 42 to 1.


The mask doesn’t bother me much. I’ve done scuba diving before, so breathing through equipment doesn’t feel unnatural. The only adjustment is getting used to trusting the mask and not worrying about leaks or it shifting during the night, but that already feels manageable.


I’ve always been a snorer, and I did try a mandibular advancement mouth guard previously. It helped slightly, but clearly wasn’t enough given the severity.


If anyone is unsure about getting tested or starting CPAP, in my case the difference was immediate and significant. I didn’t realise how much the condition was affecting me until it was treated.
 
Just gonna leave this random information here.

New clinical studies show that GLP-1 agonist like ozempic improve sleep especially in over weight individuals.

Although its not as effective as cpap nor is it curative they do have a positive effect against sleep apnea.

Just saying ....
 
Just gonna leave this random information here.

New clinical studies show that GLP-1 agonist like ozempic improve sleep especially in over weight individuals.

Although its not as effective as cpap nor is it curative they do have a positive effect against sleep apnea.

Just saying ....
Also saw the studies, while reading up about apnea. While I can afford to lose 5kg, unfortunately my options where the machine or surgery and based on my research surgery was iffy at best when it came to long term results.
 
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