Google launches browser

Will you try Google Chrome?

  • Yes

    Votes: 156 85.2%

  • No

    Votes: 12 6.6%

  • Unsure

    Votes: 15 8.2%
  • Total voters
    183
MyWorld said:
Have anyone bothered reading the EULA?
you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services.

In other words, they own everything you publish online.
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That is scary, another user on another forum brought that to my attention
OK Google Chrome File 13 Trashcan. Imagine banking details, passwords - Not likely banking details
 
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MyWorld said:
Have anyone bothered reading the EULA?



In other words, they own everything you publish online.
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that disturbs me a bit. has anyone read the EULAs for the other browsers to see if such is not included?

It's a shame cause I am liking the browser and I have been looking for a webkit browser 9though a linux one) after trying out Safari. Oh well I guess my testing of Chrome today might be my last interaction with it.
 
Chrome is pretty snappy & uncluttered, however I see no compelling reason to change from IE7 ...

- Cant see any speed diffs, IE7 with Phishing filter disabled is just as fast with Javascript intensive sites (e.g. mybroadband.co.za/vb)
- Currently missing too many little things e.g. print preview, Java plugin & RSS (actually like the way IE7 does RSS)
- Finding too many rendering anomolies compared to IE7 e.g. Cisco.com main menu bar drop down menus don't work
- Even with all its non-compliance, IE still represents the primary rendering path from premuim site experience just by virtue of vistor %

Still shows promise, will see how it matures
 
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Re. the EULA. Google is revisiting the offending section and subsection.

Rebecca Ward, the Senior Product Counsel for Google Chrome:
In order to keep things simple for our users, we try to use the same set of legal terms (our Universal Terms of Service) for many of our products. Sometimes, as in the case of Google Chrome, this means that the legal terms for a specific product may include terms that don’t apply well to the use of that product. We are working quickly to remove language from Section 11 of the current Google Chrome terms of service. This change will apply retroactively to all users who have downloaded Google Chrome.
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Like mentioned, Google changed the EULA.

http://tapthehive.com/discuss/This_Post_Not_Made_In_Chrome_Google_s_EULA_Sucks

From this:
11. Content license from you

11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services.

11.2 You agree that this license includes a right for Google to make such Content available to other companies, organizations or individuals with whom Google has relationships for the provision of syndicated services, and to use such Content in connection with the provision of those services.

11.3 You understand that Google, in performing the required technical steps to provide the Services to our users, may (a) transmit or distribute your Content over various public networks and in various media; and (b) make such changes to your Content as are necessary to conform and adapt that Content to the technical requirements of connecting networks, devices, services or media. You agree that this license shall permit Google to take these actions.

11.4 You confirm and warrant to Google that you have all the rights, power and authority necessary to grant the above license.
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To this:
11. Content license from you

11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services.

12. Software updates ...
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That was quite snappy... Over at Gentoo there is a few devs looking at the code atm. to see if it is indeed safe to trust after that EULA scare, will report back if there is any nasties we should worry about.

I'm just a little weary here. Have anyone ever logged into your Google (not gmail, google) account and seen everything that Google knows about you. At least disable browsing history from them for a bit of privacy. I'm just wondering what code is hiding under the bonnet collecting all your browsing habits, site visits and what not...

I'm not suggesting you put on your foil hat, I'll just rather wait till some developers of the FOSS community have had a look at the code and made sure it was "safe".
 
If you're using chrome, have a look at the about:internets page (just type it in the address bar, the forum won't recognise it as a URL.)
More useful about pages here.
 
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I do not think that is Chrome specific, it seems like more a general TOS for their webkits (Picasa, etc.)
 
Chrome is their software, thus still a part of their services.

1.1 Your use of Google’s products, software, services and web sites (referred to collectively as the “Services” in this document and excluding any services provided to you by Google under a separate written agreement) is subject to the terms of a legal agreement between you and Google. “Google” means Google Inc., whose principal place of business is at 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View, CA 94043, United States. This document explains how the agreement is made up, and sets out some of the terms of that agreement.
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Dnoch said:
If they were to place adverts on their home page, they could literally make millions due to the massive amounts of people that visit google on a daily basis, however they do not and will not do this for various reasons. The main reason is to keep the customer happy by having a clean, fast loading home page.
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True.
Another reason is that Google's advertising success is purely based on the relevance of the ads displayed to the user since those ads are determined based on the search keywords the user enters. The same applies to Google ads on other websites, where the ads are determined by the content of the page. Ads that are not relevant or based on the user's interest are pointless by default. Google's whole business model with regards to advertising is based on this principle.

Placing ads on Google's homepage would have been a challenge (in terms of placing an ad that is relevant to that specific user) since millions of people with completely different interests visit the Google search engine homepage. However, if you have a website about fishing, you obviously know people visiting the site are interested in fishing so you display fishing related ads. You can't do that with the Google search engine homepage since you don't know the interests of the user yet.
It's much more effective to keep the Google homepage clean and fast and focus on the relevance of the ads displayed after a search query has been submitted.
 
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Dnoch said:
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Any company who can make so much money from advertising (and have such an effective advertising system) while at the same time giving up the potential for millions of additional revenue obviously has an amazing marketing strategy :)
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I think you too are missing the point here. Google's is an advertising platform - they are the mechanism that advertisers use to advertise on other websites (such as MyADSL, etc). Secondly, their homepages are all Google branded, meaning they do advertise their own products to boost their own brand. That is exactly what Microsoft and Yahoo do as well.
And lastly, Google makes money from relevance of their advertising. Meaning that they sell advertising space to advertisers on the strength that their system can target people based on content. To anyone that knows anything about advertising - that is the holy grail of marketing. There is no need for them to advertise other products and services (that is not theirs) on their homepage - and they will probably not make much money from it if they did (given that there'd be extremely little relevance of any ads on their homepage to visitors that are really only wanting to search for something) - certainly nowhere as near the money they make from their real business anyway.
 
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