Grado Headphones

It's R1050 from take2 usa now... I can get them at a local shop for R1400, but I know their cost is R1000, so I'll strong arm them to R1300, then I have a warranty and I don't have to wait for a boat...
 
P924 said:
It's R1050 from take2 usa now... I can get them at a local shop for R1400, but I know their cost is R1000, so I'll strong arm them to R1300, then I have a warranty and I don't have to wait for a boat...
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Oh, nice. Yeah also heard of them being R1,400 locally.

Don't worry about warranty - Sennheisers have international warranties. :)
 
Yes, but then I have to pay for couriers to Sennheiser and back. I like having an agent when I buy something I think I might need a warranty for, I don't like doing the grunt work myself... I like waiting even less, so if I can get them off the shelf I win.
 
P924 said:
Yes, but then I have to pay for couriers to Sennheiser and back. I like having an agent when I buy something I think I might need a warranty for, I don't like doing the grunt work myself... I like waiting even less, so if I can get them off the shelf I win.
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I see. So you're talking about returning to the shop.

Well, that warranty won't mean anything once you've modded them. ;)
 
The 595mod is completely reversible, just a piece of foam you pull out of them. I'll put it back if I want to return them.
 
Is that not a bit disingenuous? :D

Are you allowed to carry out your own "repairs" while under warranty?
 
Why would it be? It is my property and if their product fails they should repair it, regardless of what I do with it, as long as it does not affect the product reliability...
 
PostmanPot said:
It's like comparing a souped up Audi A4 vs an Audi RS4 Avant (the one modded by Porsche a while back?). The A4 runs off normal fuel, but the Avant is designed to run off high octane fuel. Because the Avant is being run off normal fuel in the test/"review", it performs similarly, and so is graded (pun :)) similarly. I'm sure you understand the analogy...

Running something designed to be optimal without being amped, and testing it against something that is designed to be amped to operate optimally without amping it, is complete bs and unfair.
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Your analogy is just plain wrong and you're missing my point completely. Both sets have similar prices and at those prices, the sr80's outperform the 555s. Amplification will set you back another $300 for a decent unit, which multiplies the price. Sure, the HD555s may be better THEN, but then there are other options available for $400+ that would kick the 555s' ass even without amplification.
As for testing in optimal situations: how is that fair? It has to be realistic, not optimal. Optimal would skew the data, as that would involve $30k+ worth of supporting gear, which nobody at the bottom end of the market will pay for.
 
Any test becomes pretty useless when the person doesn't say what they are listening to the headphones through, because then you can't know if you are going to have a similar experience using what you have.
 
So my plans for tonight fell through, so I went and picked up a pair of the HD555's. Paid R1330 at Sounds Great @ Centurion mall (after a little negotiation). Being used to the HD515's, these seem a lot tighter, and the bass is great and neutral. I will be getting a very decent USB DAC and headphone amp within the next month (was half the motivation to get this set.)

Sorry for the threadjack.
 
Nice. I wouldn't even try make something like that myself. I was never any good at electronics and building circuits at school or uni, but at least I learnt how to solder properly, lol

A plus about getting the headphones first is that you've got the time to burn them in first so they'll sound even better when its ready :)
 
Messugga said:
Your analogy is just plain wrong and you're missing my point completely. Both sets have similar prices and at those prices, the sr80's outperform the 555s. Amplification will set you back another $300 for a decent unit, which multiplies the price. Sure, the HD555s may be better THEN, but then there are other options available for $400+ that would kick the 555s' ass even without amplification.
As for testing in optimal situations: how is that fair? It has to be realistic, not optimal. Optimal would skew the data, as that would involve $30k+ worth of supporting gear, which nobody at the bottom end of the market will pay for.
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Oh I understand your point, you just cannot compare things on price only when one requires amplification and one doesn't. Simple. Unfair comparison from the start, rather compare phones that don't need amplification.
 
PostmanPot said:
Oh I understand your point, you just cannot compare things on price only when one requires amplification and one doesn't. Simple. Unfair comparison from the start, rather compare phones that don't need amplification.
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Exactly. Or, if one requires amplification, just include that in the total cost for the setup and compare that to equivalently priced headphones.
 
Or don't. :D

If the reviewer is at all reputable, it'll be a given that headphones that require amplification will be being driven. :p
 
The HD555s don't require amplification... They just benefit from it, like most headphones would. They have a low impedance at 50ohms.
 
Depends on the model. The SR-60 is quite low, and in fact I believe so are the rest, but if you're spending hundreds of $'s on an earphone you might as well have proper amplification.
 
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