Guild Wars, questions...

[lilDeath]

I'm usually sitting with a ping of between 400 - 900 - which is relatively safe. And if I'm busy with my survivor I usually disconnect at the merest hint of lag.

Except, when the network drops me ... there's no warning. One minute its there, the next second its not.

That is pretty high ping. You must be playing on a shaped line.

But anyway, level 1 Survivor is still relatively easy. But your connection sounds pretty bad.
I thought you were trying to get to Legendary Survivor...

 

[lilDeath]

Hi Guys, I can't say that I am not enjoying this game because I really am, but there are a few things that are annoying me, and I just don't know what am I am doing wrong.

Weapons and Armour - for some reason I never pick up anything decent and I also can never buy stuff in town because it is just so dam expensive,I don’t think I will ever have that much gold and materials.

The stuff I have now I think is ok, I have used ruins to upgrade all my armour as well as my parties. I have a decent Axe which a guild member gave me.

Materials - I am forever picking sh*t up, but what the hell is it? What can you use it for? I mean I realise some items can be crafted or something, but I never see anyone that needs my items.
I have now got 5 bags and my entire chest filled with cr*p. And I just don't know what to do with it lol. There just seems like way to many materials and I just dont know what to do with them.

Areas & quests - I recently moved from the islands where Kamadan is, inland to where the sunspear sanctuary is etc. I have questing there for a week or so.
Then I travelled to Kamadan and get a message that if I want to open travel to Cantha and Kryta I must do certain quests - So cool I did them and thus opened travel there.
Now I am in Lions arch and also have another area availble to quest. I don’t mind this I just feel that I am jumping around the story and the game like a jack rabbit.
There doesnt really seem like any logical order to do things. Considering I don’t think I have really fisnished up inland by the Sunspear Sanctuary. How do you guys do it? Jus go with the flow? Do whatever?

Thanks for helping a noob out

If I can give some advice... don't be hasty in spending your money, first do thorough research. Use the tools at your disposal, sites like http://wiki.guildwars.com and http://guildwars.wikia.com are invaluable to new players. They have everything on there.

common crafting and rare crafting materials must all go into your Storage slot in your Xunlai chest for later use on weapons and armor. Some armors become expensive, then you will need these that you stored.

The above sites cover all of these, from the materials, to salvage items to collectable drops. It all will make sense.

 

[shadowfox]

That is pretty high ping. You must be playing on a shaped line.

But anyway, level 1 Survivor is still relatively easy. But your connection sounds pretty bad.
I thought you were trying to get to Legendary Survivor...

Even so, its still playable.

I am trying to get to legendary survivor, but because of my crappy connection I need to be extra careful - which means it might take a while.

 

[lilDeath]

Yes it is still payable, but very risky.
Patience is key, there are several guides as well for getting to Legendary survivor, relatively risk and death-free.
But I understand if you do it the normal way... I did all my Legendary Survivors the old manual way, by capping elites and doing quests / missions, so I admire others that do the same.
It seems 'honorable' to me.

 

[Magnarmalok]

I use to be a hardcore GW player but went over to wow and now I play Runes Of Magic(ROM)

GW I loved it for the PVE but it lack free roaming and seeing that 99% of the game is pvp gvg etc I just got upset, because I have a 384con and I don't tolerate pvp games as fair if the other guy has a advantage to execute a move before me.

When you are in a team battle, where every one is on vent or TS for those special tactics all click <insert random spell here> on that target that 1-3sec lag really runes it(yes I am that fussy). EU people get pings of less than 100 where we get over 500 or more.
So when I game overseas I choose to play PVE games because it is like a single player but with other people and it is fun questing with peeps seeing that I am a "moerse" RPG fan.
(Guild wars 2 - check it out soon to be WOW's nr1 rival for it is every thing you could dream of in a mmorpg!!! Well that I can dream of <Blush> if only they could host a "free routing service in S.A getting money from ads or what not to give us S.A peeps the chance to show our stuff and compete with same ping rates or near even!)


Now about WOW I loved it the only flaw to me is the cost and also the 600m-800ms
might not seem as much but when you have a lv80 done all the PVE and so and fully best geared its time to go see the sun or start pvping at a professional 2v2 or teams level and the lag really matters because it works like a professional dota games(teams must execute the right combos and so forth and latency is mission critical!!!)There goes my wow pvp Dreams

Now let talk about the NEW kid on the block Runes of magic.
So far I am very pleased with the "totally free" concept and the way the economy works is brilliant. The game so far to my knowledge is mostly focused on PVE and is a blend of rune scape, wow and Guildwars and a tad of fable in it as well.
Guilds can pvp declare war but there is no real factions so far in the game that I know of seeing that I don't want to spoil the game for my self, I just started playing.
The mods and adons are being promoted to be developed by giving rewards to developers.

The game has reach huge numbers of players and it is only in beta.
You will feel like you are playing the best of all the mmorpgs but I feel seeing that it is still beta and only due on 19th March that would explain the bugs I notice here and there but GM response time is almost instant and professional. I give two thumbs up to see the growth of this up coming title that you can find easily on google and Guild wars 2 that will hopefully get me back in standing in a town recruiting the whole day hehe.

Mag's brother
Geminish-Also on ROM and WOW and will maybe reinstall GW to get those last few titels!

My 1st unofficial post seeing that I'm to lazy to click register account atm

 

[lilDeath]

I Play GW PvP on a 300-400ms connection, sometimes even lower. It is good enough to play decent PvP, however there are certain roles you cannot play on such pings, or at least you can, but you will suck a bit... and that is the interrupters, which need to interrupt 1/4 and 3/4 cast spells.
You can still interrupt 1s spells regularly on these pings.
I play on unshaped connection.
Shaped is only used for emergencies, and it easily adds 100-200ms more ping to the unshaped ping you get.

 

[shadowfox]

Heh ... no choice in my case ... unless you know how to get around a 3G connection.

 

[Magnarmalok]

It is good enough to play decent PvP

Yes it is fun and all, but* it like the IDOLS sure you can sing but your voice don't have enough juice to get you to sing like the top 10.

Now pvp is fun but when you have a thirst for victory against the best the only way to beat the professionals is when you are playing on the same field as them. This is the only reason I LAN well that and to leech otherwise I would play games online.

The fun also get suck out of you when you lose not to the lack of skill but due to the fact that your opponent is able to cast off before you do and this is unacceptable frustrating to me!

Like cowboys having a duel instead of having one big tower clock at the strike of 12:00 to draw and fire you now have 2 watches where he has a wrolex on time and I have a sh*ty Telkomswatch a couple of seconds behind before it beeps the 12:00 o'clock countdown.

Wonder who died in that dual!

BLEH.

 

[Lydon]

Yes it is fun and all, but* it like the IDOLS sure you can sing but your voice don't have enough juice to get you to sing like the top 10.

I used to be under the same impression in the beginning, but in all honesty it only increases your skill. You literally learn to predict when someone is going to cast a spell and can interrupt accordingly. People are actually very predictable.

 

[Magnarmalok]

Yes very true but you should be able to be EVEN* better if you combine predictions with minimal lag? SO in reality if your opponents have the same skills he can counter your counters and predictions always take the other party into consideration.

 

[Grimspoon]

I have to say I am enjoying the game more and more - I have been playing with some more exp players the last few days and I am achieving more. Got a lot of advice and tips and a couple of nice items

 

[lilDeath]

Yes very true but you should be able to be EVEN* better if you combine predictions with minimal lag? SO in reality if your opponents have the same skills he can counter your counters and predictions always take the other party into consideration.

Like I said, don't play interrupters then on our latency. It is ms, not seconds. Then you won't be able to play the game at all.

Blaming the latency is just a horrible excuse for not PvPing. You can play other classes then if you want to blame the latency and make sure you have the best connection, otherwise stop bitching, cause you haven't even tried.

Euros play against Americans all the time, on American servers and they also have slower connections and there are forever spats going on between the 2 regions, but they still play instead of moaning about it.

In fact, shat (Euro) beat rawr (American) this past weekend during the swiss rounds of the comps while they were on American servers. That proves - Skill and execution is key in this game, not latency. Only certain roles are affected by this.

Plus, you need to get through the lower ranks before you can consider yourself top10 material and start comparing yourself with them.

 

[Magnarmalok]

VERY true
But* Euro and USA still have a huge advantage over us 10-50mb lines so our 384-4mbs ain't really helping plus they are closer to their main servers than us having long distance problem

The day a S.A guild gets in the 10 I will put my foot in my mouth till then I will scream on teamspeak, smash my keyboard and cry in the corner.

and yes the lag I get on my384 is sadly 1-2seconds and also for the price i'm paying I could get a cap less 20mb in Euro...

 

[shadowfox]

Friend of mine in Tokyo has a 100Mbps line to his house. What I wouldn't give to play on that.

 

[Devill]

Friend of mine in Tokyo has a 100Mbps line to his house. What I wouldn't give to play on that.

Yeah one of the people I pvp with was complaining about the lines being interupted because they are upgrading to o/fibre, then the dreaded comment came: "Well there was nothing wrong with my 20mb line"

.!..

 

[Lydon]

Yes very true but you should be able to be EVEN* better if you combine predictions with minimal lag? SO in reality if your opponents have the same skills he can counter your counters and predictions always take the other party into consideration.

Latency is only an issue for interrupters and monks to a degree. Playing an Elementalist, for example, won't be affected much by a high latency at all.

 

[Schitzo]

Salvage + Money Questions...

Ok so I just got my paws on all 3 games + the expansion.

I'm VERY confused as to what to do when it comes to salvaging items.

Should I salvage blue items & then get something like an iron ignot from it, or should I go on & try & sell the blue item to a vender, or should I sell the item privately to someone?

The same question would apply to white colored items like the regular swords, mallets etc. that drop. Do I just sell those at vendors, salvage them & make whatever it is that they disenchant & salvage into?

How on earth do you guys make money, are their Professions like WoW?

Can someone point me in the right direction to find a decent Prophecies & Factions or NightFall Walkthrough please? As I seem to be wandering around ALOT getting the crap kicked out of me.

 

[lilDeath]

White, Blue and Purple items are not really sold to players, only newbies (on noob island) desperate for a weapon will take them. You won't get anything of value for it in return, maybe a few 100 gold at most.
The gold (and sometimes green) weapons you can sell to players but then only if it is really worth something based on it's skin (how the weapon looks), how rare it is and its requirements.
The green weapons (unique monster drops) have dropped a lot in price, so they are almost not sold anymore ingame to players.

White, Blue and Purple items are better to be sold to the merchant. If you salvage them, you won't get anything of value out of it really, just like what you saw, one iron ingot. It is not worth it, especially considering what a salvage kit cost.
The only time the above is incorrect, is if there is a "Highly Salvageable" inscription on the item. THEN you can salvage the item and either sell the materials to a material trader or put it in your storage vault.

Don't you have the game box? There is a manual in there. There are very good online resources for new players, which are the wiki sites.
http://wiki.guildwars.com (Official wiki)
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page (Unofficial wiki)

It would also be advisable to join a guild that can show you the ropes.

No, there are no professions like in WoW. You do farming in PvE, mostly to earn money and also by playing the game. Playing the game normally should get you more than enough money to buy at least one elite armor set. This means 75k and upwards.
Then you must pick up all your assigned items and sell them or work out which will be the most profitable (which I sorta explained above).

Hope this helps.

 

[Jagtiger]

Gold items can be sold as "unids"(gold items that not identified), 7 items for 5k(714 each). Especially when they have high requirement(for weapons with maximum damage, req10-13, req9 for items with common skin/looks) or don't have maximum damage. In short, items that cannot be sold to players because of above reasons i.e. requirement or skin or not maximum damage...

 

[Schitzo]

White, Blue and Purple items are not really sold to players, only newbies (on noob island) desperate for a weapon will take them. You won't get anything of value for it in return, maybe a few 100 gold at most.
The gold (and sometimes green) weapons you can sell to players but then only if it is really worth something based on it's skin (how the weapon looks), how rare it is and its requirements.
The green weapons (unique monster drops) have dropped a lot in price, so they are almost not sold anymore ingame to players.

White, Blue and Purple items are better to be sold to the merchant. If you salvage them, you won't get anything of value out of it really, just like what you saw, one iron ingot. It is not worth it, especially considering what a salvage kit cost.
The only time the above is incorrect, is if there is a "Highly Salvageable" inscription on the item. THEN you can salvage the item and either sell the materials to a material trader or put it in your storage vault.

Don't you have the game box? There is a manual in there. There are very good online resources for new players, which are the wiki sites.
http://wiki.guildwars.com (Official wiki)
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page (Unofficial wiki)

It would also be advisable to join a guild that can show you the ropes.

No, there are no professions like in WoW. You do farming in PvE, mostly to earn money and also by playing the game. Playing the game normally should get you more than enough money to buy at least one elite armor set. This means 75k and upwards.
Then you must pick up all your assigned items and sell them or work out which will be the most profitable (which I sorta explained above).

Hope this helps.

Wow, amazing breakdown!

Thank you VERY much! You've cleared up all my confusion.

I'm just going to find a Guild now & see how that works. I cant seem to load the Official Wiki btw... Its been like that for 2 weeks now.