Hamas Clarifies Truce Would Only Be to Plan Next War

Ep27 said:
Do you have ANY video evidence of the iron dome intercepting a Hamas rocket?
The hamas rockets should have some sort of smoke.
All I see is the iron dome rocket going up and exploding randomly with no Hamas rocket.
Look forward to video evidence on this.
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You think the propulsion (the cause of that flume of smoke you see) lasts all the way until the rocket reaches its destination?
 
Fulcrum29 said:
Here you go:

[video=youtube_share;qj73y4JAXOU]http://youtu.be/qj73y4JAXOU?list=UUawNWlihdgaycQpO3zi-jYg[/video]

Read here; and

http://www.janes.com/article/40943/idf-releases-iron-dome-interception-rate

here:

http://www.janes.com/article/36745/rafael-looks-at-iron-dome-enhancements

Thor is going to whack you.
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I dont see any trails of the Hamas rockets? Why not? Even the day time videos, you see the iron dome rocket going up and exploding.
No hamas rocket, why not?

I honestly believe the Iron Dome is there to incite fear into the Israelis.
Ive seen 100s of videos like this that youve posted, none of them show a Hamas rocket, ie two projectiles meeting eachother and exploding.

So yes I agree lots of "rockets" coming in form Gaza, but they not being intercepted by the iron dome in my opinion.
 
MickeyD said:
You think the propulsion (the cause of that flume of smoke you see) lasts all the way until the rocket reaches its destination?
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Unless they really lousy rockets, yes.
Unless you saying a heavy "empty" piece of metal is falling from the sky.
 
Ep27 said:
I dont see any trails of the Hamas rockets? Why not? Even the day time videos, you see the iron dome rocket going up and exploding.
No hamas rocket, why not?

I honestly believe the Iron Dome is there to incite fear into the Israelis.
Ive seen 100s of videos like this that youve posted, none of them show a Hamas rocket, ie two projectiles meeting eachother and exploding.

So yes I agree lots of "rockets" coming in form Gaza, but they not being intercepted by the iron dome in my opinion.
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1) You are blind(ed)
2) Yeah, 100s... This is my debut video post on Qassam/Iron Dome
3) Yes, Gaza Strip is attacking Israel, something we agree on.
 
Ep27 said:
Things like this...
They have primitive firework rockets, the Fajr5 can destroy a tent not a building.
Hamas is hardly armed when comparing them to Israeli fire power.
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Do you not understand, Al Qaeda had/has the access to the same limited weapons, look what they did to US-Coalition forces. ISIS had access to the same weapons, look what they have done. Stop trying to infer that Hamas do not pose a threat.

EDIT: This is what a homemade bomb can do;

Cougar_Hit_By_IED.jpg


And don't talk rubbish. If the Fajr-5 struck a house or landed in a busy area it would cause damage. The Iranians would not deploy it as part of their missile arsenal if it did not work.
 
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Fulcrum29 said:
1) You are blind(ed)
2) Yeah, 100s... This is my debut video post on Qassam/Iron Dome
3) Yes, Gaza Strip is attacking Israel, something we agree on.
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Im asking for video evidence, I want to see it.
Am I blind because I cant see what you cant see?
Find video evidence on any two rockets meeting and exploding.

Can i put a figure to it? 3000 rockets were fired and believed to be intercepted, tons of videos of the the iron dome working its magic, but no REAL evidence of any Hamas rockets being intercepted.
 
thestaggy said:
Do you not understand, Al Qaeda had/has the access to the same limited weapons, look what they did to US-Coalition forces. ISIS had access to the same weapons, look what they have done. Stop trying to infer that Hamas do not pose a threat.
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Oh a threat they do pose. I agree.
The degree of threat and the use of powerful descriptions of the power of the Hamas army is what im disputing.
Hamas is very weak when comparing the military might we are used to knowing in modern warfare.

Al Queada as far as I know had a home ground advantage with their caves and so on, but were also armed poorly.
 
Ep27 said:
Im asking for video evidence, I want to see it.
Am I blind because I cant see what you cant see?
Find video evidence on any two rockets meeting and exploding.

Can i put a figure to it? 3000 rockets were fired and believed to be intercepted, tons of videos of the the iron dome working its magic, but no REAL evidence of any Hamas rockets being intercepted.
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Ask your militant buddies in Gaza to stick GoPro cams on their Qassam rockets.

You really need to learn how these interceptions work, how the Iron Dome is designed and why the Iron Beam system will systematically replace the Iron Dome. Too keep it simple, go read on the Qassam and Iron Dome specs, simple answer in the details. Hint: The Iron Dome cannot intercept low-incoming targets, hence Hamas is sticking drones together which also cannot be intercepted in dense inhabited areas by a2a.

There is also a probable chance that the Qassam rockets can be upgraded in order to cluster on detonation, reason why Israel wants to extend the Iron Dome interception range, which is then a concern to Gaza civilians.
 
Ep27 said:
Oh a threat they do pose. I agree.
The degree of threat and the use of powerful descriptions of the power of the Hamas army is what im disputing.
Hamas is very weak when comparing the military might we are used to knowing in modern warfare.

Al Queada as far as I know had a home ground advantage with their caves and so on, but were also armed poorly.
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Yes, and Hamas also has home ground advantage when IDF ground forces move in. Hamas are not stupid, they do not engage the IDF in open battles. They draw them in and engage them with commando-like hit and run attacks, often operating out of underground bunkers. Their tunnel network is elaborate. The Vietnamese used tunnels to great effect against US forces as well.

http://www.defensenews.com/article/...ael-Underestimates-Hamas-Asymmetrical-Tactics

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/23/us-palestinians-israel-hamas-idUSKBN0FS1XJ20140723
 
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Fulcrum29 said:
Ask your militant buddies in Gaza to stick GoPro cams on their Qassam rockets.

You really need to learn how these interceptions work, how the Iron Dome is designed and why the Iron Beam system will systematically replace the Iron Dome. Too keep it simple, go read on the Qassam and Iron Dome specs, simple answer in the details. Hint: The Iron Dome cannot intercept low-incoming targets, hence Hamas is sticking drones together which also cannot be intercepted in dense inhabited areas by a2a.

There is also a probable chance that the Qassam rockets can be upgraded in order to cluster on detonation, reason why Israel wants to extend the Iron Dome interception range, which is then a concern to Gaza civilians.
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You still haven't shown any proof of the Iron dome intercepting a Qassam or Fajr5 rockets.
Yet we see 100s of Iron Dome rockets shooting up and exploding.
Does the advanced iron Dome swallow up and recycle the Hamas rocket then turn into fresh air?
 
thestaggy said:
Yes, and Hamas also has home ground advantage when IDF ground forces move in. Hamas are not stupid, they do not engage the the IDF in open battles. They draw them in and engage them with commando-like hit and run attacks, often operating out of underground bunkers. Their tunnel network is elaborate. The Vietnamese used tunnels to great effect against US forces as well.

http://www.defensenews.com/article/...ael-Underestimates-Hamas-Asymmetrical-Tactics
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Tunnels were used in Warsaw ghettos as well...

Hamas has no "homeground advantage", Israel has every single bit of Gaza under surveillance.
 
Ep27 said:
Oh a threat they do pose. I agree.
The degree of threat and the use of powerful descriptions of the power of the Hamas army is what im disputing.
Hamas is very weak when comparing the military might we are used to knowing in modern warfare.

Al Queada as far as I know had a home ground advantage with their caves and so on, but were also armed poorly.
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Only because Israel keeps it that way! Now what would happen do you think if Israel remove all "blockades" and allow Hamas free reign in "importing" weapons? Just imagine!
 
Ep27 said:
Tunnels were used in Warsaw ghettos as well...

Hamas has no "homeground advantage", Israel has every single bit of Gaza under surveillance.
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Israel does not have detailed maps of their tunnel network, hence they had to suffer casualties trying to find them.

I can sit outside your house for 2-months, studying it and watching your movements. That still does not tell me what is inside your house.
 
Ep27 said:
Tunnels were used in Warsaw ghettos as well...

Hamas has no "homeground advantage", Israel has every single bit of Gaza under surveillance.
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BS why were they surprised to find a more extensive tunnel network than ever anticipated and why did they underestimate the amount of rockets?? That right thumb of yours must be showing the wear as I am sure the left thumb are extinct long ago.
 
Im pretty confident this Ep27 is trolling you guys.
 
Seriously said:
BS why were they surprised to find a more extensive tunnel network than ever anticipated and why did they underestimate the amount of rockets?? That right thumb of yours must be showing the wear as I am sure the left thumb are extinct long ago.
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The worst part is that they constructed an ant nest within Gaza Strip, Israel, Lebanon and Egypt, and possible Syrian Arab republic territories. This like what Japan did with Iwo Jima, connecting, but these terrorist groups managed to cross border which is an immense concern. I'm glad to see the Egyptian authorities cleaning up their end, or so I trust.
 
"The warriors in Gaza are waiting with Allah's help to renew the fighting, or to return to planning the next campaign. There's no escape. Either jihad or planning (for the next jihad),"
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Does anyone else hear this in the voice Robin Williams used in his Muhammar Khadaffi skit?

'I draw line in sad. Step over it and die! Nheeeh!
...
Ok. I draw another line in sand. Step over this one and die! Nheeeh!'
 
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