Hardcapped finally?

...and do what about it? It's none of their business what people are using the internet for.
 
sorCrer1 said:
I have been on the net since the early 90's. I spend at least 16 hours a day online sometime more. There is no-way you can download 130GB of 'legal' electronic information a month. Please explain to me how you managed this?
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Let's say I'm an idiot and I don't know how to rip the DVDs I own, but I want to have them on my PC (Let's say I have 4 monster hard drives).

Now, assume I own 500 DVDs, at an average of 6GB per DVD that comes to approximately 3TB (I don't want a low quality one CD Xvid or Divx rip).

You can make this argument with all the old VHS tapes, music tapes, vinyls, game CDs and game DVDs you own as well. Remember I'm an idiot and I don't know how to backup stuff but I can download with the best of them.
 
Kropotkin,

You're not allowed to! You can only make a copy of something you legally own for archival purposes. Even this is contentious!
 
Donovan,

Come on! They don't have to. They just have to report you to an organization like the SPA.

The point is, maybe we shouldn't get all pissed about the fact that downloading massive amounts of copy righted ****, is a bit slow.

I have spent many nights worrying about my downloads. Getting up at 2am to check that the connection hasn't dropped etc!
 
The fact is that they're saying 'download life' on the one hand and then hardcapping our a$$es when we try. Their own promotional material suggests downloading 'the matrix'. Anyway, I think it's a dangerous assumption to make that all high bandwidth consumers are downloading copyrighted content. There is plenty of electronic content to buy online, game demos, etc.
 
Donovan,
I hate Telkom. Personally I think they should be charged with treason for their behaviour towards the citizens of this country over the years. Of course one could purchase 130GB of data. You could purchase Battlefields or whatever 30x in the month. I'd be surprised if you were complaining about your costs then though!
 
Someone please give me a slap on the wrist for downloading/uploading 130Gb of illegal stuff. This thread has lost the plot, as have many of you blokes.

Bottom line: use it to the max - you are, after all, paying through your arse for it. If anyone has a problem with people downloading high volumes over DSL - don't do it. Me, well I'm hardcapped now. Thanks Telkom and all you w@nkers that preach against them and then turn around and take it up the tailpipe.
 
riggs_9mmp said:
Someone please give me a slap on the wrist for downloading/uploading 130Gb of illegal stuff. This thread has lost the plot, as have many of you blokes.

Bottom line: use it to the max - you are, after all, paying through your arse for it. If anyone has a problem with people downloading high volumes over DSL - don't do it. Me, well I'm hardcapped now. Thanks Telkom and all you w@nkers that preach against them and then turn around and take it up the tailpipe.
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*slap*...lol
 
riggs_9mmp said:
You obviously have a very limited grasp of what's cooking mate. And i use EVERYTHING in that 130Gb I pulled off the net.
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Why don't you give us a list of some of the stuff you downloaded. I am all for removing the 3GB cap which is crazy but 130GB is a lot stuff. I agree with sunsoffun. You are playing into Telkom's hands. They will use this against us. Remember, if they don't think they are making enough money, they have it in the power to raise the prices. They have already gotten away with this once. I would also be a little bit concerned that they may try and bill you for the amount you went over the limit. They have been known to do worse things.

Cheers

Dean
 
riggs_9mmp said:
Someone please give me a slap on the wrist for downloading/uploading 130Gb of illegal stuff. This thread has lost the plot, as have many of you blokes.
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Now you are giving RIAA amunition. I am a software developer and by downloading illegal content you are stealing from someone.

Don't get me wrong, I hate DRM as much as the next guy but I do buy all of my own music and DVD's even if they do charge too much locally. I will not buy a CD with DRM as that prevents me putting it on my computer where I listen to it.

There is no justification for stealing. If it's too expensive then you don't need it.
Bottom line: use it to the max - you are, after all, paying through your arse for it. If anyone has a problem with people downloading high volumes over DSL - don't do it. Me, well I'm hardcapped now. Thanks Telkom and all you w@nkers that preach against them and then turn around and take it up the tailpipe.
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There are people that are using DSL for business and other legitimate means. You are effectively making it more expensive for them.

Telkom are sh1ts that are bleeding us dry. Last time someone found a loophole look what they did to us. They decided to shaft us another way.

Well, you are welcome to take a chance. They will probably try to recover the money from you.

Cheers

Dean
 
Legal or not - it doesn't matter, it's all the same when travelling through wires - bits of data and that's what this whole thing comes down to. What you or I download is personal, no one has the right to say "gimme a list of things you've downloaded". It's like saying "gimme a list of things you've got in your house" - it's personal stuff man.

If this guy can download 10 TB worth of data on a 1GB cap account (and Telkom isn't stopping him), good for him, burn those wires, baby, yeah ! You get what you paid for and if it was 10 TB, good bargain. Telkom has definetely brainwashed MANY people into believing 1 - 3 GB is enough and if you do find it enough and you are happy with these small restrictions - THEN YOU ARE THE ABUSER ! Please go back to 56K dialup and stop using ADSL. You can get 1 - 3 GB off a 56K dialup. Broadband is for high-end users, not for checking emails.

That's just my opinion anyway.
 
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Gawd. I hate to say this, but little new information gets discussed on this forum lately. Its constantly the same stuff. Best ISP, Best bundle, We hate telkom, is what I'm downloading legal, crusify me for downloading something illegal. Back in the day when we all had 56k modems, people were downloading mp3's. The only thing that changed is the size of the stuff being pirated.

If Telkom wants to punish us, they should do so by monitoring and fining / penalising people for what they download. Unfortunately that type of activity isn't legal ( or does it fall under the anti-terrorism bill ??? ) and so they penalise us by not giving us what we pay for. I would love to see what their cost / income ratio is regarding ADSL.
 
lord_spaceman said:
If this guy can download 10 TB worth of data on a 1GB cap account (and Telkom isn't stopping him), good for him, burn those wires, baby, yeah ! You get what you paid for and if it was 10 TB, good bargain. Telkom has definetely brainwashed MANY people into believing 1 - 3 GB is enough and if you do find it enough and you are happy with these small restrictions - THEN YOU ARE THE ABUSER ! Please go back to 56K dialup and stop using ADSL. You can get 1 - 3 GB off a 56K dialup.
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I never said I was happy with the cap. Actually, I said the opposite. Everyone at the moment is suffering because Telkom felt that we were "abusing" the old system. They have changed once and will do it again. 3GB is nowhere near enough and I can't wait for the day when we get our television through the internet. Watch, they are going to enforce a 1 hour disconnect for all users next or something crazy like that. Every time we push them, they slap us harder and laugh more.

You could also compare it to someone having your stereo in their house. Is that any of your business. Are we so agnostic towards crime? Cybercrime overtook drug trafficing.

http://labs.news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051128/wr_nm/cybercrime_dc

Cheers

Dean
 
What if all that 10TB was totally and 100% legal (impossible in this day in age, I know), but just speaking. Does that still count as abuse ?
 
Trent242 said:
I would love to see what their cost / income ratio is regarding ADSL.
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I think they already make more money every year from ADSL then the whole undersea cable cost the taxpayers. Nuff said.

100000 users x R540 (384K line and 3GB) = R684 Million per year

Cable was R3.6 Billion but Telkom portion is only about R720 million

Cheers

Dean
 
Abe said:
I think they already make more money every year from ADSL then the whole undersea cable cost the taxpayers. Nuff said.

100000 users x R540 (384K line and 3GB) = R684 Million per year

Cable was R3.6 Billion but Telkom portion is only about R720 million

Cheers

Dean
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Nice breakdown
 
lord_spaceman said:
What if all that 10TB was totally and 100% legal (impossible in this day in age, I know), but just speaking. Does that still count as abuse ?
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I don't think the cable could handle that so some businesses may be a tad upset. I don't think that 300GB is abuse. My problem is that big brother percieves it as "abuse" and will shaft us all for it. They obviously work on the principal that they have lost that extra money although it's not something that they would have had anyway.

It also worries me when people brag about stealing (and I am not talking about the bandwidth). People seem to be proud that they acquired someone elses work illegally. The bandwidth is also limited although not to the extent that Telskum would have us believe and there is no point in wasting. It's like leaving your water on to spite the water board.

Cheers

Dean
 
Abe said:
I think they already make more money every year from ADSL then the whole undersea cable cost the taxpayers. Nuff said.

100000 users x R540 (384K line and 3GB) = R684 Million per year

Cable was R3.6 Billion but Telkom portion is only about R720 million
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That is the whole cost of the cable. Not an annual cost. Annual maintenance is only about R10 million so I am told.

Cheers

Dean
 
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