Because I don't want to vote in approval of race-based policy?Any white DA voter must have known that in order for their party to grow, it NEEDS to grow its black vote. In order to do that most resources will have to be used in that demographic. Understanding that, how can a white voter then feel alienated?
DA sets policy as a party, on top of what Maimane says in his capacity as leader.And if you have a problem with your party leader, how come is your problem now with your party. You can still NOT like Maimane and still vote DA.
Of course I will vote.This election boils down to: Do you support the continued looting of the ANC or not? Do you want to enable the EFF looting or not? There will be time for principles and moral values in 2024. For now, help the country, PLEASE.
The best post in this entire thread to date. I would change it in one small way.How in the hell is that racism?
The DA, going back to its PFP, IP and DP roots was a genuine liberal party. There were no racial agendas or policies. The minute DA and Maimane started coming up with the ''race is disadvantage'' BS and committed to embracing BEE instead of rebuking it they stopped being a liberal party.
If those whites were the intolerant bunch you accuse them of being why did the nationalist NP die while the liberal DP grew? Why has the VF+ - a conservative nationalist party at its heart - shown no signs of major growth? In fact, the VF+ has stagnated in the past 4 general elections.
The vast majority of whites in SA don't want to vote for exclusive minority parties, they want to vote for a party void of any racial identity, preferences or biases because we know that this is the only way the country will ever get anywhere. A party of merit and true equality. Not a party with disclaimers and asterisks.
Most of the younger DA leaders engage in nonsense on twitter. I find DASO crowd a lot more mature than their seniors.Ah yes, Phumzile Van Damme is another electoral turnoff for the DA. I forgot about that. She engages in lots of nonsense on Twitter.
Why have the DA called on Leon and Zille? Because they are electoral assets to the DA, despite what some might think on here.
Yep, that's the truth.The problem is there is not one single party out of the 48 that have made it to the ballot paper that meets this definition, not one. So we are left as we have for my entire voting life in this country, having to choose "the lesser of the weavils on the plate"
A vote for one of the the DA alliance partner is good enough to help our country.This election boils down to: Do you support the continued looting of the ANC or not? Do you want to enable the EFF looting or not? There will be time for principles and moral values in 2024. For now, help the country, PLEASE.
Huh? Are you now saying now wanting to grow your party in the rest of the voter block (that happens to be black) is race-based policy? Where do you think their growth will come from? Is it not from the rest of the voters that didn't vote for them?Because I don't want to vote in approval of race-based policy?
Policy is documented, what a leader say, if it's not in the doc its not party policy. You DID vote for a party, didn't you?DA sets policy as a party, on top of what Maimane says in his capacity as leader.
Really? The people that was comfortable voting for a white majority party, then the whites started to feel "alienated".If there is no room in SA for a truly equal and liberal party then that is the fault of the black voters.
Please allow me to de-confuse you.I just don't understand this type of reasoning. Aren't you a DA voter because of their policies? How come individual person's twitter nonsense suddenly makes you move away from your strong felt policies?
Zille's twitter nonsense was much more damaging for the party, yet no outrage from those outraged about Maimane now. Whether you agree with Zille's tweets or not, it still was more damaging to the brand.
As a DA supporter shouldn't your concerns be with the growth of the party, yet Zille was defended by that core group.
Snotty remarks normally don't deserve engagement, but i'll bite.Please allow me to de-confuse you.
Which will only be relevant to a DA voter or a potential one.Let's just ignore the fact that Musi & Co jumped onto the racist twitter bandwagon prematurely a few times, never apologizing.
That's true, but if i engage with the Japanese, i have to use some Japanese words.@JustAsk you cannot use the word "Race". You denied in another thread that the term has any meaning.
If you refuse to admit that there are differences in the people of South Africa, you cannot use any label you like to label people as different, whether it is "Race" or "Black" or "White".
Oh, so you admit that language spoken is another characteristic of a specific group of people?That's true, but if i engage with the Japanese, i have to use some Japanese words.