Have you completed an advanced driving course?

Have you completed an advanced driving course?

  • Yes

    Votes: 59 31.9%

  • No, but I want to

    Votes: 66 35.7%

  • No, I do not plan to

    Votes: 57 30.8%

  • Other

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • Total voters
    185
SHL said:
Completed the AMG full day course at Zwartkops about 10 years ago. Should be made mandatory for new learners/drivers.
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Theres a difference between practicing to the point before your body goes into a reflex mode sensing trouble and when your body switch to reflex mode, you usually cannot remember those seconds well or at all, what your hands or and feet did or did not do.

If you go into a reflex mode, what happens in next 3 seconds is what counts, and if you got the wrong reflex, its unlikely a course of one day will do it other than having fun and expectations about safety.

To change a reflex takes many dedicated practice sessions understanding the concept of changing it. Thats why book knowledge does not help, neither quick fixes, as we can see with accidents still happenning after millions & millions spend on the aspect of safety over many years.

Accidents can and will happen due to our ability to make mistakes(Various reasons, if you got the right reflexes in your system, you will experience narrow escapes, or maybe somebody else has that day and save you both, if you have time to sense, thats why you must keep your eyes on the road 100% at least not distracted(Also in many ways).

I doubt new learners can get wrong reflexes corrected in any fast ways of learning, the best that can happen is they become aware of theres more to it, but what-? Theres a practically issue as a result. I have seen how experienced racers got killed with wrong reflexes.
 
invitro7 said:
Yes, did a BMW high performance one at Zwartkops Raceway a few years back. Not a big fan of BMW, but super fun
(was a prize I won at work)
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did the same BMW one at Killarney, was going to go to their night driving one as well, but it got cancelled IIRC

also went for advanced riding with the WPMC advanced riding school
and a supercar track day, twice
and a Reynard single seater

all at Killarney, wouldn't mind having a go on another track though
 
always wanted to try it, seeing how much all those laps on Grid autosport and NFS stick to me in the real world,

maybe one day I'll get a chance to see for myself if Drifting is really that easy.
 
Good driving has nothing to do with skid pans, racecourses, emergency stops etc. These are the technical aspects of driving and mastery of them is good but only makes for an adequate driver. These skills are more easily taught so that is what gets taught.

Excellent driving is all in the mind. It is based on observation, situational awareness, anticipation and intelligent analysis of the situation. It rigorously keeps the emotions under control. It is a form of wisdom that carefully respects the needs of others. This wisdom is a kind of humility that understands one's own limitations, echews aggression and assertiveness. It is patient, kind and generous towards other road users.

This is what makes an excellent driver, not mastery of technical skills.
 
bwana said:
I learnt to drive in the UK so compared to your average SA driver I have...
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I did my motorbike A1 (less than 125cc because I was under 18 at the time) license in SA and my motorbike A license in the UK a few years later. The difference between SA and the UK for drivers license tests is like day and night. In SA for a full motorbike license the test comprises solely of driving around a yard, dodging a few cones, doing an emergency stop and a hill start. And that's it. In the UK they do all of that PLUS you have to drive around the streets of London with a 2-way radio in your helmet and the examiner follows behind in either a car or another motorbike and instructs you to "turn left", "turn right", "take 2nd exit at the next roundabout" etc.
 
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