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maybe you should find out if there is not a wireless user group in your area, and rather go through them? I have a little 3km link between myself and another wugger using a WRT54G and Poynting panel on my side, we have a bit of trees in the way and he hits my panel at a odd angle, but we still manage to get 300kB/s download speeds and under 10ms ping replies.
 
Hi Dade....thanks for the input. Had a look at your website and it explains clearly what has to be done when connecting to the ctwug.

I have joined wug.za.net and I do intend participating, but meanwhile I want to get this link up and running quite quickly. If no one can tell me if what I propose will work, I will try it anyway, although I would hate to waste the money, if it is not necessary.

I have 2 wrt54g at the moment, so all I need is some antennas, cabling and 2 boxes and 2 splitters. I don't believe it should be hard to get the link up and running. It already works on the ground, with the linksys antennas. My only concern is whether by using the splitter and the 2 smaller panel antennas, I will get local reception and be able to operate wirelessly. I have at least 2 laptops working wirelessly on either end.
 
if you have LOS there is no reason why WRT's and panels won't work. I'm not sure for what reason you want to use splitters though.
 
Robone, what area are you in? Why don't you ask a wug to do a installation for you for a small fee. Im sure the guys are willing to make a few bucks to donate towards growing their wug.
 
Robone said:
Hi Dade....thanks for the input. Had a look at your website and it explains clearly what has to be done when connecting to the ctwug.

I have joined wug.za.net and I do intend participating, but meanwhile I want to get this link up and running quite quickly. If no one can tell me if what I propose will work, I will try it anyway, although I would hate to waste the money, if it is not necessary.

I have 2 wrt54g at the moment, so all I need is some antennas, cabling and 2 boxes and 2 splitters. I don't believe it should be hard to get the link up and running. It already works on the ground, with the linksys antennas. My only concern is whether by using the splitter and the 2 smaller panel antennas, I will get local reception and be able to operate wirelessly. I have at least 2 laptops working wirelessly on either end.
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May i ask why you'd wanna use splitters?
 
Kloon said:
Robone, what area are you in? Why don't you ask a wug to do a installation for you for a small fee. Im sure the guys are willing to make a few bucks to donate towards growing their wug.
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ja nee, ek het gewonder wanneer jy iets tese gaan he :D
 
The reason for using splitters is so that I can connect two antennas together. One to connect the two wrt's together and on for local access.

As for paying someone to do it. Well, half the fun is doing it yourself, so why do I want to get someone else to do it?

Anyway, I don't mind making a donation to a wug, when I get connected to one. At this stage, as mentioned previously, I have joined Jhbwug and registered my location. Thats it so far.

But, lets ignore the wug's for the time being. I have explained my situation. Do any of you guys have a solution? Is there one? Or must I just go ahead and do what I was going to do anyway and let you guys know the outcome.
 
How can you ignore the wugs if they are the people helping you on this forum? Dont know if you've noticed, but all the people replying is probably on a wug.
 
Kloon said:
How can you ignore the wugs if they are the people helping you on this forum? Dont know if you've noticed, but all the people replying is probably on a wug.
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One thing I have noticed is that I have not got an answer yet. So I am not sure how all this replying helps.
 
Robone,I spent some time on Jawug chat thingy last night and got some fantastic advice and suggestions from some of the guys there..

There are also trolls out there that will deliberatly give you crap and just egg you on..That Ive realised ! Those ass***** are doing an injustice to Ryder and a lot of the guys `s efforts over there..
If you sift the crap from the good stuff you will find answers..I did.
 
Ryder_JHB said:
Robone, have you not seen my replies to your questions here?

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=78051&page=18
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Ryder...I have read all the responses on that thread and replied to a lot of them. I agree with Big Kriss that you guys are doing a good job.

But there are 2 issues and I don't want to mix the 2 of them up.

The 1 issue is how to get on the Wug...and you post on the thread your refer to, has cleared things up to a certain extent. I had a look at Dade from CT's website and it does also make things a lot clearer. But, I have decide that only once I get my own network up and running, am I going to link to Jawug

The other issue is how must I set up my antennas for my own network, which is what this thread is about.

Now Ajax actually introduced me to the idea of using splitters, for which I thank him

ajax said:
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2) AFAIK no. My router is set on auto with regards to the antenna, and I've noticed the signal is best near the front or underneath the front of the antenna outside. Luckily my pc with USB WLAN is positioned inside the house just underneath the hot spot of the antenna.

A friend of mine uses a 10dB splitter and splits the signal to his antenna outside and lower gain patch he uses inside his house. So 90% of the power goes to the outside antenna, and 10% to the inside antenna. If there is some way to make the router use both antennas, please anyone tell. My friend will be keen, yet embarrassed, to hear this.
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And all I want is confirmation that this will work. I am sure it will. But maybe there is a better solution
 
I still dont understand how you wanna use spliters, just remember that a radio can only act as AP or client, not both at the same time.
 
Kloon said:
I still dont understand how you wanna use spliters
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Preferably the router is installed as close to the outdoor antenna as possible to minimise cable loss. You put a 2 way splitter right at the antenna port of the router. One output runs to the outside antenna and the other output runs to an indoor antenna.

At my friend's place the outdoor antenna is mounted on the side of house closest to the AP down the road, so his outdoor Yagi is pointing away from his house. The backlobe of the Yagi is not sufficient to give coverage inside his house. So the signal is split, 90% to the outdoor antenna, and 10% to an indoor patch pointing into his house. The patch has 9 dB gain, compensating to a large extent for the fact that only 10% of the power goes into it.

At my place, my outdoor antenna is mounted so that it points basically slightly over my house into the general direction of the AP down the road. By tilting my antenna slightly downwards, I get good coverage inside my house without sacrificing too much on connecting with the distant AP. So I don't need a splitter or a 2nd router as was suggested earlier in the thread.

My router is set to transmit only 25% power, yet through my asbestos roof in the computer room I still manage to get -62dBm from the outdoor antenna. During heavy rain, I maybe lose 3 dB, due to the roof acting as a shield.

I might add that I haven't checked for any commercially available splitters online, and I am not sure if you will find a 10dB splitter. You may find a 3dB one, meaning a 50/50 split. And all splitters have loss, but its specification should mention this.

@Robone, I would get on the roof with a laptop and router, and using its own antenna see if I can connect to the other dude also on his roof with his router and laptop. Then if you can get a signal strength indication from the router, it is easy to calculate the signal you would end up with using your panels and maybe a splitter.


Kloon said:
just remember that a radio can only act as AP or client, not both at the same time.
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My Linksys WRT54GL router is on AP+WDS mode, so I can connect to it from my pc's USB-WLAN and the router connects to the AP across the road which is connected to the internet.
 
ajax said:
At my place, my outdoor antenna is mounted so that it points basically slightly over my house into the general direction of the AP down the road. By tilting my antenna slightly downwards, I get good coverage inside my house without sacrificing too much on connecting with the distant AP.
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Never picked this up before in your previous post : I think I will try this 1st and if it works, I will save the cost of 2 x internal antennas and 2 x splitters. However, I might have a problem because my roof has wire mesh under the tiles.

I also have been looking at the various splitters available in the USA and they are quite pricey.

Thanks anyway for your input
 
ajax said:
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My Linksys WRT54GL router is on AP+WDS mode, so I can connect to it from my pc's USB-WLAN and the router connects to the AP across the road which is connected to the internet.
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Ah yes, but if you use wds speed gets halved at each hop.
 
Kloon said:
Ah yes, but if you use wds speed gets halved at each hop.
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Aah, interesting, it's 4 hops to my friend's place, we only manage 2 mbits/sec peak. Maybe we should make cable connections to our routers instead of wireless. But I don't mind really, we don't copy much stuff over between us. The links are primarily used for sharing a 384k ADSL line.
 
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