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porchrat said:
Yup. Nothing but class from you. You just can't be a reasonable human being can you?

You had better be careful. There are rules about personal attacks around here.
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RBP if you feel you've been violated, I meant what I said without any intentional malice.
 
Fudzy said:
Hacking up baby boys? Boy, you and porchrat have deeply seated angst against the procedure, there are millions of guys out there who have had the procedure and have not felt violated, and then you get you chaps.
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If at birth two of your toes were chopped off you also would not feel violated as you have come to accept your situation as normal to you.
 
ponder said:
If at birth two of your toes were chopped off you also would not feel violated as you have come to accept your situation as normal to you.
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Yes, having toes removed would affect my balance and be on display A LOT more than my penis would be (well hopefully). Does anyone here know what percentage of circumcised men have problems with being circumcised? Would be interesting to see how many more there are out there.
 
Fudzy said:
Yes, having toes removed would affect my balance and be on display A LOT more than my penis would be (well hopefully). Does anyone here know what percentage of circumcised men have problems with being circumcised? Would be interesting to see how many more there are out there.
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Imbalance, meh... nothing a power balance bracelet can't fix. If it causes you to lose balance that is.
 
Fudzy said:
Yes, having toes removed would affect my balance and be on display A LOT more than my penis would be (well hopefully). Does anyone here know what percentage of circumcised men have problems with being circumcised? Would be interesting to see how many more there are out there.
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If your two small toes were removed you would have had no problem with balance now as you would have learnt to adapt naturally. You would not know the difference seeing you never had the toes to compare with in the first place.
 
Fudzy said:
Hacking up baby boys? Boy, you and porchrat have deeply seated angst against the procedure, there are millions of guys out there who have had the procedure and have not felt violated, and then you get you chaps.
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Again you assume that because I have a problem with the principle of taking someone's choice away needlessly that somehow I am personally invested in the situation. Why do you do this? On what rational basis do you make this assumption?

I agree that there are millions of guys that don't have a problem with it. However that doesn't mean that there aren't people that have a problem with it or that your child won't have a problem with it later. Why take the risk for something that offers NO advantage to the child whatsoever? Why would support a procedure that risks psychologically injuring your child later in life for no benefit?
 
You guys who are arguing for snipping....

Tell me... Why don't you also get your ears cut off? You do know that those can also get infected if not cleaned properly? Have you seen the wax build up in some of those flappers?

And come to think of it... those teeth of yours... they are just going to give you lots of problems with abscess, infections, plaque, gum disease, cavities.
Better pull them all out now.

And while we are on the subject... fingers... those nails just keep growing and getting dirty, and growing and getting dirty... and you might suffer a hangnail.
Better cut your kids fingers off while you can... you don't want him hassling with that crap later in life! :eek:
 
Garyvdh said:
You guys who are arguing for snipping....

Tell me... Why don't you also get your ears cut off? You do know that those can also get infected if not cleaned properly? Have you seen the wax build up in some of those flappers?

And come to think of it... those teeth of yours... they are just going to give you lots of problems with abscess, infections, plaque, gum disease, cavities.
Better pull them all out now.

And while we are on the subject... fingers... those nails just keep growing and getting dirty, and growing and getting dirty... and you might suffer a hangnail.
Better cut your kids fingers off while you can... you don't want him hassling with that crap later in life! :eek:
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So you saying the foreskin holds as much importance and siginificance in day to day functions as those things? I must say, this thread has opened my eyes to the versitality of the foreskin.
 
Fudzy said:
So you saying the foreskin holds as much importance and siginificance in day to day functions as those things? I must say, this thread has opened my eyes to the versitality of the foreskin.
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Dude, it's a part of the human body. Don't be ashamed of it. And don't resort to clutching at straws in order to justify having lost yours.
There is no valid reason for having it lopped off. It's a money making scheme.
Might as well have part of your brain lopped off... although in certain posters case here I doubt we would have noticed much difference.... ahem. :rolleyes:

Why cut off ANY part of any other person's body???
If it's your own body and your are a consenting adult... then knock yourself out.
But nobody has the right to go cutting up another human being's skin and flesh.
 
Garyvdh said:
Dude, it's a part of the human body. Don't be ashamed of it. And don't resort to clutching at straws in order to justify having lost yours.
There is no valid reason for having it lopped off. It's a money making scheme.
Might as well have part of your brain lopped off... although in certain posters case here I doubt we would have noticed much difference.... ahem. :rolleyes:

Why cut off ANY part of any other person's body???
If it's your own body and your are a consenting adult... then knock yourself out.
But nobody has the right to go cutting up another human being's skin and flesh.
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Well said.

Only the part in bold I disagree with. If the procedure can't wait, that individual is at the time incapable of understanding the implications of the procedure (too young, unconscious, mentally disabled etc.) and if not having that procedure is going to result in a serious decrease in that individual's quality of life (or will result in death) then the individual responsible for the patient (spouse, parent or legal guardian) should be allowed to make the decision. Only under those circumstances though. I'm afraid circumcision doesn't qualify.
 
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Garyvdh said:
Dude, it's a part of the human body. Don't be ashamed of it. And don't resort to clutching at straws in order to justify having lost yours.
There is no valid reason for having it lopped off. It's a money making scheme.
Might as well have part of your brain lopped off... although in certain posters case here I doubt we would have noticed much difference.... ahem. :rolleyes:

Why cut off ANY part of any other person's body???
If it's your own body and your are a consenting adult... then knock yourself out.
But nobody has the right to go cutting up another human being's skin and flesh.
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You've gone off on a tangent on what I was asking, not suprising though, why answer a question directly when you can repeat a statement that has nothing to do with what I asked.

It's law in this country that the child has to be 16 in order to be circumcised so the question of whether you should have it done to your kid is moot. I came into this thread with information from the CDC & NHI, both organisations I would hold with more regard and factual resources than a site for supporting guys who want their foreskins back.

I do think if you and your wife have made the decision to circumcise your child, and it's done by a proper surgeon in a country where it is legal it borders on lunacy to scream child mutilator/abuser to the same extent as those religious nuts who refuse blood transfusions etc.
 
Fudzy said:
So you saying the foreskin holds as much importance and siginificance in day to day functions as those things? I must say, this thread has opened my eyes to the versitality of the foreskin.
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Would you advocate that kids have their appendixes removed at birth? What about the baby toe on one's foot? Research indicates it has become a pretty redundant digit, so to speak.

You're obfuscating the issue by bringing up the versatility aspect, which has absolutely no bearing on whether one's important digit should be savaged, risking infection and death in the process.

And yes, I am circumcised...
 
Fudzy said:
It's law in this country that the child has to be 16 in order to be circumcised so the question of whether you should have it done to your kid is moot.
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So you entered the discussion of an article detailing a child being circumcised and thought you weren't going to be talking about children being circumcised? :wtf::confused:


CDC & NHI, both organisations I would hold with more regard and factual resources than a site for supporting guys who want their foreskins back.
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So the CDC and NHI have articles detailing how men don't potentially suffer psychological problems after having been circumcised as children without their consent? Even more :confused:
 
porchrat said:
So you entered the discussion of an article detailing a child being circumcised and thought you weren't going to be talking about children being circumcised? :wtf::confused:
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Huh? Ofcourse I knew there would be talk about children being circumcised, I was just stating the facts.

porchrat said:
So the CDC and NHI have articles detailing how men don't potentially suffer psychological problems after having been circumcised as children without their consent? Even more :confused:
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No, they have articles on the health benefits of circumcision.
 
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