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You studied Medicine ?
Nope, but that's irrelevant. Just because you don't study something doesn't mean you have no knowledge about something.
Maybe something to help you though is to understand what the word fibrillation means. But to save you the time, it basically means irregular. Hence the term "defibrillation", to stop the irregular heartbeat.
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Nope, but that's irrelevant. Just because you don't study something doesn't mean you have no knowledge about something.
Maybe something to help you though is to understand what the word fibrillation means. But to save you the time, it basically means irregular. Hence the term "defibrillation", to stop the irregular heartbeat.
Don't know where you found that info. The only way to re start a stopped heart is with a electrical shock.
How do you think the surgeon starts a heart after a transplant or if you've been on a bypass machine.
Matt91
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voodoo?
Recently had a small hernia op. Surgeon said he charges about 70% of the hospital plan rate. When the summary arrived, I found out that he charges 5 times the hospital plan rate
One procedure was charged at R 22660, the hospital plan paid R 3450. Even the Gap Cover Ins asked me to ask him to check. I did not and they paid it, with a warning
One procedure was charged at R 22660, the hospital plan paid R 3450. Even the Gap Cover Ins asked me to ask him to check. I did not and they paid it, with a warning
If you actually looked yourself, you will find the info you want.
The only effective treatment is to deliver an electrical shock using a device called a defibrillator (to de-fibrillate the heart), which stops the chaotic rhythm of a heart in VF, giving it the chance to restart beating with a normal rhythm.
Or on Wiki
Defibrillation - Wikipedia
If the heart has completely stopped, as in asystole or pulseless electrical activity (PEA), defibrillation is not indicated.
And another
Does a defibrillator restart a stopped heart? - Cardiac Science
We’ve all sat in suspense, watching our favourite Hollywood medical dramas, as flatlining patients are jolted back from the brink by fearless doctors wielding electric paddles. But just how accurate is this? Can a defibrillator really restart a stopped heart? The answer may surprise you.
www.cardiacscience.co.uk
Does an AED actually restart a heart?
In short the answer is no; there is a misconception that the heart stops during an SCA. In fact it continues to beat in an irregular way (fibrillation) which prevents it from pumping oxygenated blood around the body to the brain and other vital organs. The AED is used to try and defibrillate the heart. It provides a shock to try and return the heart to its normal rhythm.
Kosmik
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Just a point here, if he had to be taken by ambulance and resuscitated, then this whole incident counts pmb, neither medical aid nor hospital can refuse treatment or not be covered.
Like with many of your interactions on this forum, you are wrong.
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If you actually looked yourself, you will find the info you want.
The only effective treatment is to deliver an electrical shock using a device called a defibrillator (to de-fibrillate the heart), which stops the chaotic rhythm of a heart in VF, giving it the chance to restart beating with a normal rhythm.
Or on Wiki
Defibrillation - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
If the heart has completely stopped, as in asystole or pulseless electrical activity (PEA), defibrillation is not indicated.
And another
Does a defibrillator restart a stopped heart? - Cardiac Science
We’ve all sat in suspense, watching our favourite Hollywood medical dramas, as flatlining patients are jolted back from the brink by fearless doctors wielding electric paddles. But just how accurate is this? Can a defibrillator really restart a stopped heart? The answer may surprise you.www.cardiacscience.co.uk
Does an AED actually restart a heart?
In short the answer is no; there is a misconception that the heart stops during an SCA. In fact it continues to beat in an irregular way (fibrillation) which prevents it from pumping oxygenated blood around the body to the brain and other vital organs. The AED is used to try and defibrillate the heart. It provides a shock to try and return the heart to its normal rhythm.
If you were a doctor. I would definitely not use your services
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You watching way too much Game of Thrones
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If you actually looked yourself, you will find the info you want.
The only effective treatment is to deliver an electrical shock using a device called a defibrillator (to de-fibrillate the heart), which stops the chaotic rhythm of a heart in VF, giving it the chance to restart beating with a normal rhythm.
Or on Wiki
Defibrillation - Wikipedia
If the heart has completely stopped, as in asystole or pulseless electrical activity (PEA), defibrillation is not indicated.
And another
Does a defibrillator restart a stopped heart? - Cardiac Science
We’ve all sat in suspense, watching our favourite Hollywood medical dramas, as flatlining patients are jolted back from the brink by fearless doctors wielding electric paddles. But just how accurate is this? Can a defibrillator really restart a stopped heart? The answer may surprise you.www.cardiacscience.co.uk
Does an AED actually restart a heart?
In short the answer is no; there is a misconception that the heart stops during an SCA. In fact it continues to beat in an irregular way (fibrillation) which prevents it from pumping oxygenated blood around the body to the brain and other vital organs. The AED is used to try and defibrillate the heart. It provides a shock to try and return the heart to its normal rhythm.
The donor heart is still beating when its transplanted ???
The surgeon packs ice for fun around the heart during a bypass procedure ?
The bypass machine is used simply to make the procedure seem more complicated ?
The monitor is faulty when it displays a flat line ?? The heart is actually still beating !!!!
ScottulusMaximus
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Dude, you're wrong, just let it go.
The heart starts beating once it gets oxygenated blood by itself....
Sometimes they need to zap it to get it beating regularly but never to start it in the first place.
The transplanted heart will normally beat on its own when the blood supply is pumped through the heart with the use of an ECMO machine. In some cases, they are required to place small paddles on the heart to shock it to get the rhythm regular, again defibrillator to correct the irregular rhythm, not to start a non-beating heart.
Here is a more technical article explaining why a stopped heart can't be restarted with a shock
Why Shocking a “Flat-Lined” Heart Can't Get It Going Again
Myth: Shocking someone who has flat-lined can get their heart started again. It never fails. You’re watching television and someone is circling the drain,
gizmodo.com
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How does the heart circulate blood if it has stopped ????
The heart does not always start on its on. Most times it is shocked. Sometimes additional shocks are required to achieve sinus rhythm.
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The transplanted heart will normally beat on its own when the blood supply is pumped through the heart with the use of an ECMO machine. In some cases, they are required to place small paddles on the heart to shock it to get the rhythm regular, again defibrillator to correct the irregular rhythm, not to start a non-beating heart.
Here is a more technical article explaining why a stopped heart can't be restarted with a shock
Why Shocking a “Flat-Lined” Heart Can't Get It Going Again
Myth: Shocking someone who has flat-lined can get their heart started again. It never fails. You’re watching television and someone is circling the drain,
provide me proof from medical journals
No, you go find your own medical journals where a single doctor or person for that matter managed to restart a stopped heart with a defibrillator because frankly I am not going to waste my time looking for nonsense you deem to be true due to your ignorance on a subject, and arrogance of your own assumed intelligence. These are your assertions, not mine. I have provided plenty of information here what are used for and what they are not used for.
ScottulusMaximus
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Maybe not the Defib, But that nurse in a mini skirt sure revived him....Only on Grey's Anatomy