How auto gearboxes went from zero to hero

[supersunbird]

Nope. You're taught to do that with auto or manual when starting, well actually you should use the handbrake to comply, but if you're in park or neutral it shouldn't move unless you're on an incline.

Ford Ecosport automatic won't start if brake not stepped on, and by start i mean you cannot turn the key when initially inserted if brake is not stepped on.

 

[Swa]

Ford Ecosport automatic won't start if brake not stepped on, and by start i mean you cannot turn the key when initially inserted if brake is not stepped on.

Well that is just stupid.

 

[Craig_]

Ford Ecosport automatic won't start if brake not stepped on, and by start i mean you cannot turn the key when initially inserted if brake is not stepped on.

As all others?

Well that is just stupid.

I have never driven an automatic car that would start without your foot on the brakes.

 

[spiff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zzEtxJkC7Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_y1S8C0Hmc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ugao6jTyM7k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhwYIs6Lu3M

 

[SauRoNZA]

Nope. You're taught to do that with auto or manual when starting, well actually you should use the handbrake to comply, but if you're in park or neutral it shouldn't move unless you're on an incline.

What car is this on?

Because you need to step on the brake in most (every one I've ever driven) autos to start them and more so to switch from P to D,N,R etc.

 

[faniebraai]

What car is this on?

Because you need to step on the brake in most (every one I've ever driven) autos to start them and more so to switch from P to D,N,R etc.

Not in my Ranger. I often stand on the outside and just turn the key...

also, have confirmed can start in N

 

[SauRoNZA]

Not in my Ranger. I often stand on the outside and just turn the key...

also, have confirmed can start in N

Think you might be right. It’s possibly just for changing out of Park on mine as well.

Habit of doing it all in one step probably.

 

[Dan C]

Well that is just stupid.

Actually I don't know. I always step on the brake before I hit the start button.

 

[Swa]

As all others?



I have never driven an automatic car that would start without your foot on the brakes.

Well I've never encountered it. Guess it's the super modern ones that act as a nanny.

 

[SauRoNZA]

Well I've never encountered it. Guess it's the super modern ones that act as a nanny.

Kid is just about to sleep so can’t test it now, but manual says you need to have it in P or N and foot on the brake to start it.

Could just be German litigation precaution but almost sure I need to put foot on brake to have it start and could have sworn the screen says it too but didn’t pop up now.

Will test / confirm tomorrow.

 

[Splinter]

Kid is just about to sleep so can’t test it now, but manual says you need to have it in P or N and foot on the brake to start it.

Could just be German litigation precaution but almost sure I need to put foot on brake to have it start and could have sworn the screen says it too but didn’t pop up now.

Will test / confirm tomorrow.

If you were wrong (gulp), will you admit it?

Edit: although I think fanie did so already....

 

[SauRoNZA]

If you were wrong (gulp), will you admit it?

Edit: although I think fanie did so already....

I did say I would confirm tomorrow didn’t I?

And I already told Fanie he may be right in that it doesn’t apply to the starting just changing gates.

Either way the manual does state it. Whether it forces it on you is the real question.

Porsche definitely needs your foot on the brake as I remember it very clearly from a few weeks ago. Mercedes I’m pretty sure as well when I drove one for a wedding car the other day because it’s the kind of stuff you forget to do when jumping into a new car.

What about your BMW?

Doesn’t seem to apply universally to all cars but does seem to be the general rule within specific requires criteria.

And it makes sense from the litigation point of view.

 

[Splinter]

I did say I would confirm tomorrow didn’t I?

And I already told Fanie he may be right in that it doesn’t apply to the starting just changing gates.

Either way the manual does state it. Whether it forces it on you is the real question.

Porsche definitely needs your foot on the brake as I remember it very clearly from a few weeks ago. Mercedes I’m pretty sure as well when I drove one for a wedding car the other day because it’s the kind of stuff you forget to do when jumping into a new car.

What about your BMW?

Doesn’t seem to apply universally to all cars but does seem to be the general rule within specific requires criteria.

And it makes sense from the litigation point of view.

I'm more interested in you saying you were wrong, as opposed to saying someone was right. I look at it as growth for you

And I think my BMW does require a foot on the brake. Then again, I wasn't arguing this point...

 

[SauRoNZA]

I'm more interested in you saying you were wrong, as opposed to saying someone was right. I look at it as growth for you

And I think my BMW does require a foot on the brake. Then again, I wasn't arguing this point...

Not very hard to admit I was wrong when it’s something as properly black and white as this.

It’s either wrong or right, not really many other options.

But I tried to figure out now if these is a legal requirement for this but don’t find it anywhere.

Only related thing I find is that Americans can have remote start (for the frosted winters) but Europeans can’t because of pollution criteria.

References here or there is that it’s obviously not a mechanical requirement but rather a safety factor in case the car should be stuck or shorted in gear somehow.

 

[Swa]

Kid is just about to sleep so can’t test it now, but manual says you need to have it in P or N and foot on the brake to start it.

Could just be German litigation precaution but almost sure I need to put foot on brake to have it start and could have sworn the screen says it too but didn’t pop up now.

Will test / confirm tomorrow.

Well Volkswagen Fox/Jetta, Toyota Cressida and now Kia Rio doesn't require it. Park/neutral is a given but I've also started other cars and never needed to press the brake. Changing the gears is also easy but some has a button you have to press first.

 

[Splinter]

Not very hard to admit I was wrong when it’s something as properly black and white as this.

It’s either wrong or right, not really many other options.

But I tried to figure out now if these is a legal requirement for this but don’t find it anywhere.

Only related thing I find is that Americans can have remote start (for the frosted winters) but Europeans can’t because of pollution criteria.

References here or there is that it’s obviously not a mechanical requirement but rather a safety factor in case the car should be stuck or shorted in gear somehow.

You still haven't admitted you were wrong...

 

[Swa]

You still haven't admitted you were wrong...

Can you just shut up?

 

[SauRoNZA]

Well Volkswagen Fox/Jetta, Toyota Cressida and now Kia Rio doesn't require it. Park/neutral is a given but I've also started other cars and never needed to press the brake. Changing the gears is also easy but some has a button you have to press first.

Well now we are talking prehistoric cars.

There is a great many other things they didn’t do either.

I think any automatics that have a diagonal gated system don’t need the buttons. The straight up down gates have the buttons to prevent you klapping reverse into first with clutches engaged.

 

[SauRoNZA]

You still haven't admitted you were wrong...

Can you read?

I said I will check TOMORROW.

And as illustrated above Swa doesn’t even care.

We are having a casual conversation out of interest of things related to the thread and you want to turn it into some completely unrelated drama.

It’s not something where right or wrong even matters.

 

[Splinter]

Can you read?

I said I will check TOMORROW.

And as illustrated above Swa doesn’t even care.

We are having a casual conversation out of interest of things related to the thread and you want to turn it into some completely unrelated drama.

It’s not something where right or wrong even matters.

Oh my my word. I'm turning this into a drama? :crylaugh:

It seems you are incapable of admitting you were wrong. Even in the slightest thing. Try it. Grow.