How has Stephen Hawking survived?

Spizz said:
Hmmm, according to his worshippers on here, this doesn't happen. Can we have an explanation on this major contradiction from Patrick, rza or Swa please?

And taking out the animals as well???? wtf is that all about? Those little kittens and loyal doggies :confused: :cry:
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Well, the dinosaurs felt the full wrath of his might for whatever reason they pissed him off. It would stand to reason that the rest are not are no exception, again for whatever reason.
 
RazedInBlack said:
Well, the dinosaurs felt the full wrath of his might for whatever reason they pissed him off. It would stand to reason that the rest are not are no exception, again for whatever reason.
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Well I get that. It must've been terrible for the people who lived beside the dinosaurs just under 6000 years ago. I mean look how they chased Jeff Goldblum all over the place.
 
Cray said:
So in other words there is no free will because being saved or not has already been determined by God?
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Look at it this way: There is nothing that happens without being determined by God or being allowed by God to happen before it even happens, absolutely nothing. With regarsd to salvation, Phillipians 2:13 answers your question. It makes it clear that you have a will, but it is God who works in you to "will and to act according to his purpose". So do you have a will? Yes. Who controls your will according to Phillipians 2:13? God. Do you then have a will if God controls it? No! But this is with regards to salvation as made clear in Phillipians 2:12.

Do you have a will to sin? Absolutely! Does God control your will to sin? No, because God is not the author of sin but has allowed it to occur! Waht this means is that you would not have an excuse when God sends to hell.
 
rza said:
Look at it this way: There is nothing that happens without being determined by God or being allowed by God to happen before it even happens, absolutely nothing. With regarsd to salvation, Phillipians 2:13 answers your question. It makes it clear that you have a will, but it is God who works in you to "will and to act according to his purpose". So do you have a will? Yes. Who controls your will according to Phillipians 2:13? God. Do you then have a will if God controls it? No! But this is with regards to salvation as made clear in Phillipians 2:12.

Do you have a will to sin? Absolutely! Does God control your will to sin? No, because God is not the author of sin but has allowed it to occur! Waht this means is that you would not have an excuse when God sends to hell.
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Lol, this is ridiculous. I have a will but god controls it, but not when I sin?
 
rza said:
Look at it this way: There is nothing that happens without being determined by God or being allowed by God to happen before it even happens, absolutely nothing. With regarsd to salvation, Phillipians 2:13 answers your question. It makes it clear that you have a will, but it is God who works in you to "will and to act according to his purpose". So do you have a will? Yes. Who controls your will according to Phillipians 2:13? God. Do you then have a will if God controls it? No! But this is with regards to salvation as made clear in Phillipians 2:12.

Do you have a will to sin? Absolutely! Does God control your will to sin? No, because God is not the author of sin but has allowed it to occur! Waht this means is that you would not have an excuse when God sends to hell.
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Oh, ok. So God knows everything and he knows when we will sin and what we will do... but its our free will that made us sin, and therefore God will punish us for it, even though he knew all the details beforehand because he controls our will. Sounds like a fscktard to me who likes to punish people for random things.
 
rza said:
Look at it this way: There is nothing that happens without being determined by God or being allowed by God to happen before it even happens, absolutely nothing. With regarsd to salvation, Phillipians 2:13 answers your question. It makes it clear that you have a will, but it is God who works in you to "will and to act according to his purpose". So do you have a will? Yes. Who controls your will according to Phillipians 2:13? God. Do you then have a will if God controls it? No! But this is with regards to salvation as made clear in Phillipians 2:12.

Do you have a will to sin? Absolutely! Does God control your will to sin? No, because God is not the author of sin but has allowed it to occur! Waht this means is that you would not have an excuse when God sends to hell.
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So God knew all along that I was going to comment via tapatalk on my S4 to say your beliefs are just simply messed up.

Here, have free willeth, but if thou doesn't do with it exactly as I commandeth anyway, I will sendeth your thinners ath to burneth in the fireth of hell.

Isn't really free will if I'm not allowed to do what I want with it freely issit?

Cool thing is you can't even blame me for anything, I am but God's puppet doing exactly what he allowed I should be doing on this day.

Tadaa!
 
ToxicBunny said:
Oh, ok. So God knows everything and he knows when we will sin and what we will do... but its our free will that made us sin, and therefore God will punish us for it, even though he knew all the details beforehand because he controls our will.
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He controls our will when it comes to salvation.
 
rza said:
He controls our will when it comes to salvation.
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No, being omniscient he doesn't get to chose when he "controls" our will.. its all or nothing, and he accepts all the responsibility for it.
 
ToxicBunny said:
No, being omniscient he doesn't get to chose when he "controls" our will.. its all or nothing, and he accepts all the responsibility for it.
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Starting to see this boat sinking fast. When one person tells me the Bible says we must choose who we will serve, and another person tells me the Bible says my choice is already made for me, I slowly start backing away and quietly exit through the rear door.
 
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Beerisgood said:
Starting to see this boat sinking fast. When one person tells me the Bible says we must choose who we will serve, and another person tells me my choice is already made, I slowly start backing away and quietly exit through the rear door.
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What choice is that ?
 
rza said:
What choice is that ?
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My choice of salvation, unless I misunderstood you.

Edit: I don't think you'll find many people who would be comfortable with the fact that they are not in control of their own lives.
 
rza said:
Then so be it, unless you have a problem with God's choice. Do you have a problem with God's choice?
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If it means me not choosing salvation, then I have a very big problem with it.
 
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