How has Stephen Hawking survived?

rza said:
The doctrine of "God's decree" means that not only does God knows what will happen in the future, but He also decree that certain things should happen, which they do, while also allowing other things to happen. There's no way of knowing if God decreed Stephen's salvation until Stephen is saved.
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So what do you have against Roman Catholics?
 
rza said:
The doctrine of "God's decree" means that not only does God knows what will happen in the future, but He also decree that certain things should happen, which they do, while also allowing other things to happen. There's no way of knowing if God decreed Stephen's salvation until Stephen is saved.
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If he knows what will happen, then he knows everything correct, or just he does know some things?
 
ToxicBunny said:
If he knows what will happen, then he knows everything correct, or just he does know some things?
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God is omniscient, He knows everything - past, present and future. He knows if Stephen will be saved or not, but His knowledge is not based on His omnisciency but on His omnipotency. When it comes to salvation God doesn't look into the future to see who will be saved, rather God determines who will be saved before those people are even born.
 
rza said:
God is omniscient, He knows everything - past, present and future. He knows if Stephen will be saved or not, but His knowledge is not based on His omnisciency but on His omnipotency. When it comes to salvation God doesn't look into the future to see who will be saved, rather God determines who will be saved before those people are even born.
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So in other words there is no free will because being saved or not has already been determined by God?
 
rza said:
God is omniscient, He knows everything - past, present and future. He knows if Stephen will be saved or not, but His knowledge is not based on His omnisciency but on His omnipotency. When it comes to salvation God doesn't look into the future to see who will be saved, rather God determines who will be saved before those people are even born.
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If he knows everything, he doesn't have to "look" into the future.. he knows it already...

You can try argue yourself out of this one rza, but the post painted you into a corner.
 
Cray said:
So what do you have against Roman Catholics?
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It isn't the true church. God forbid (?) you ask him which is the real church and which one he attends cause he'll sneak out of that one like Absalom did in Jerusalem.
 
rza said:
God is omniscient, He knows everything - past, present and future. He knows if Stephen will be saved or not, but His knowledge is not based on His omnisciency ...
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Your god isn't even slightly sciency, let alone omnisciency. :D
 
rza said:
God is omniscient, He knows everything - past, present and future. He knows if Stephen will be saved or not, but His knowledge is not based on His omnisciency but on His omnipotency. When it comes to salvation God doesn't look into the future to see who will be saved, rather God determines who will be saved before those people are even born.
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Good grief, I bet even God is doing a facepalm.
 
So.,.which God is the real one, just so I dont back the wrong one and find myself in damnation anyway?
 
OzzieCapie said:
So.,.which God is the real one, just so I dont back the wrong one and find myself in damnation anyway?
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Definitely not this god from the bible, he is a puny petty god, amongst other petty things, wiping out the human race because erm the people were being iffy. Come on, the only solution puny god could come up with was to drown everybody, every little thing.....really, that was the only way you could see, the only way out......well okey dokey and side note, don't masterbate, oh no, puny god don't like the mess on them sheets.

The real, real god is the super god. Suffice to say......the super god is something special, a force so massive, it doesn't even have knowledge of the existence of insignificant humans on a teeny rock hurling through space, a rock so tiny it is dwarfed by the billions and trillions of other rocks and planets and galaxies in the universe.
 
lived666 said:
Definitely not this god from the bible, he is a puny petty god, amongst other petty things, wiping out the human race because erm the people were being iffy. Come on, the only solution puny god could come up with was to drown everybody, every little thing.....really, that was the only way you could see, the only way out......well okey dokey and side note, don't masterbate, oh no, puny god don't like the mess on them sheets.

The real, real god is the super god. Suffice to say......the super god is something special, a force so massive, it doesn't even have knowledge of the existence of insignificant humans on a teeny rock hurling through space, a rock so tiny it is dwarfed by the billions and trillions of other rocks and planets and galaxies in the universe.
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Small correction there..... He did not drown the "human" race he created the flood to rid the world of the Nephilim race.

Demons mated with humans and a new race was amongst humans, God was disgusted and created the flood to kill them.

Genesis 6:4
 
Thor187 said:
Small correction there..... He did not drown the "human" race he created the flood to rid the world of the Nephilim race.

Demons mated with humans and a new race was amongst humans, God was disgusted and created the flood to kill them.

Genesis 6:4
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Wow demons mated with humans...getoutofhere, seri-us?

BTW, I love how the God helps all the golfers etc and then sends cyclones through poor islands....he's messing with everybody.
 
Thor187 said:
Small correction there..... He did not drown the "human" race he created the flood to rid the world of the Nephilim race.

Demons mated with humans and a new race was amongst humans, God was disgusted and created the flood to kill them.

Genesis 6:4
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Didn't he see that happening?
 
Thor187 said:
Small correction there..... He did not drown the "human" race he created the flood to rid the world of the Nephilim race.

Demons mated with humans and a new race was amongst humans, God was disgusted and created the flood to kill them.

Genesis 6:4
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But it's a Nephilim that defeats Diablo, so he couldn't have killed them all...
 
Spizz said:
Didn't he see that happening?
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Apparently not...

http://biblehub.com/genesis/6.htm

5The LORD saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time.

6The LORD regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled.

7So the LORD said, "I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created--and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground--for I regret that I have made them."
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God dun goofed, apparently.
 
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