How much am I worth? Dev salary

whatwhat said:
In the company mentioned, they do not want their team leads and up to be technical. So developer team leads, software development managers, project managers, etc. do not need to understand software or anything technical. It's an interesting way to run a dev house.

As for what you're worth, I would estimate between 15-25k a month as a starter.
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And yet the company is a industry leader and still growing.....
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
That's great for the people you know. But there are people who have never ridden a bike in their life, and other vehicles would present a real danger to them on a daily commute. Coming in here and just telling someone to get a bike to get to work is retarded...
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Training.

Do it properly and most of the risk you speak of is negated.

The problem is people doing it on a whim without planning. So agree everyone shouldn't just jump on a bike to skip traffic.

But it's certainly an option if you do it right.
 
DA-LION-619 said:
Okay I'm not getting a bike nor am I moving it wouldn't make financial sense.

I'm 21, I don't need to spend time with my family, I just don't want to waste my life in traffic.
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Sorry to rain on your parade, but I don't think you'll get a job in developement in the country side. Most dev jobs I know of, is in cities. Meaning, traffic.
I would rather pay less and live in the country, than sit in traffic in a city. My current job, in peak traffic, it takes me 5 minutes (at most) to drive home.
 
beans100 said:
Sorry to rain on your parade, but I don't think you'll get a job in developement in the country side. Most dev jobs I know of, is in cities. Meaning, traffic.
I would rather pay less and live in the country, than sit in traffic in a city. My current job, in peak traffic, it takes me 5 minutes (at most) to drive home.
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It was a factor to consider since working remotely means no travelling so less expenses incurred on my side.
 
whatwhat said:
As for what you're worth, I would estimate between 15-25k a month as a starter.
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Based on what exactly?

His 21 so realistically how much experience does he really have, to me experience is a function of time, quality and intensity and one thing is for sure as a part time freelancer at 21 It's save to say he would not take on jobs that would push his boundaries as that would be deceiving to the client having to up sell skills he might not have. Where as if you have a job at a company got example then it's more likely that you got exposed to more demanding, complex and challenging work via the job you have.

So to me at age 21, 1 year in freelance vs 1 year in a company I'll rank company higher.
 
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beans100 said:
Sorry to rain on your parade, but I don't think you'll get a job in developement in the country side. Most dev jobs I know of, is in cities. Meaning, traffic.
I would rather pay less and live in the country, than sit in traffic in a city. My current job, in peak traffic, it takes me 5 minutes (at most) to drive home.
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You'd rather live in the country, but you have to commute to the city, that = traffic. I'm not following?
 
Thor187 said:
So to me at age 21, 1 year in freelance vs 1 year in a company I'll rank company higher.
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To be brutally honest, anything under two years full-time experience and I don't rank you at all.

Freelancing while you are studying is great. Actually one of the best things you can do. Once you finish your studies though and start working g full-time you need to do it at a company (or within a team) for a couple of years to build your skills and learn good habits (so it needs to be a good team).

Doesn't matter how awesome you think you are, it is impossible to pick up good habits if you are the only judge of your work.
 
Hamster said:
To be brutally honest, anything under two years full-time experience and I don't rank you at all.

Freelancing while you are studying is great. Actually one of the best things you can do. Once you finish your studies though and start working g full-time you need to do it at a company (or within a team) for a couple of years to build your skills and learn good habits (so it needs to be a good team).

Doesn't matter how awesome you think you are, it is impossible to pick up good habits if you are the only judge of your work.
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Completely agree
 
whatwhat said:
As for what you're worth, I would estimate between 15-25k a month as a starter.
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This is the hard part, I understand freelancing isn't the same as working full time but anything less than 20k wouldn't make financial sense since I roughly make that already.
 
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DA-LION-619 said:
Job security is a factor, but I'm currently not dedicating 40 hours a week to freelancing.
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Keep in mind that you get "rights" when permanent lol. leave and other fancy things.
Took a 30% cut when I moved to perm but some benefits covered that for me.

Be careful not to price yourself too far off in the market, you are young and can still make $$$ as you grow or you'll end up being too expensive for most places unless you go corporate. #Experience :cry:
 
Pho3nix said:
Keep in mind that you get "rights" when permanent lol. leave and other fancy things.
Took a 30% cut when I moved to perm but some benefits covered that for me.

Be careful not to price yourself too far off in the market, you are young and can still make $$$ as you grow or you'll end up being too expensive for most places unless you go corporate. #Experience :cry:
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Yeah there is some perks like attending .Net conferences //Build etc.
 
Biggest bit of advice I can give you is going to be controversial.

Get yourself a nice luxury vehicle. It turns the 2 hour dredge to work and back into something you look forward to.

Changed the way I think about my work when I got mine. Stopped being tired and frustrated when I got to the office and got home, and positively affected my work ethic and job satisfaction.

Sure, it is expensive and you could put that money to use somewhere else better, but it's a great motivation tool.

YMMV and this is probably particular to my personality type, but it worked for me!
 
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