How much tax do you pay?

[Ricard]

Norway, taxes 50%, free school, university, medical, actual police, STATE PENSION. hmmm

AND students get PAID for going to university and passing with good marks.. Netherlands too, the UK are busy implementing it at university levels.

 

[Meisteral]

- all that really remains is car allowance, and most people know that it's a matter of time before that's a thing of the past as well.

All ready 'gone'.
2007 = 60% of allowance taxable but claimable if you can prove your kms.
And increasing the private kms by 12.5% means you have to have a log book now.

2008 will see further adjustments and there is news that the employer must control the log book. (Maybe time to go back to company cars? Nope, companies don't like it when their cars are the only cars that can do 0-100km/h in 8 secs in reverse .)

 

[Meisteral]

AND students get PAID for going to university and passing with good marks.. Netherlands too, the UK are busy implementing it at university levels.

In Germany they pay a portion for further studies BUT they do reimburse the student if they pass. (too many found it to be free holiday)

 

[Freshy-ZN]

I would like to see a massive overhaul of the tax system: a complete breakaway from the norm.

Something like the abolition of all income tax and with an increase of the VAt rate to something like 19-21%. That way almost everyone will be contributing to the state coffers. Essentials like bread and milk etc should have a lower VAT rate of say 6-8%.

One would probably then find that the total tax collected would far exceed the current amounts of income tax and VAT combined which would then lead the way to a lowering of the VAT rate slightly. The actual figures here are hypothetical but you get the general idea.

It really irks me that so few support so many....

If everyone contributed, everyones contribution would be reasonable and bearable. The hard working man in the street could then lay claim to perhaps 80 cents of every one of his Rands instead of 65 cents.

 

[Syndyre]

AND students get PAID for going to university and passing with good marks.. Netherlands too, the UK are busy implementing it at university levels.

Same in Finland, even in high school.

 

[Vrotappel]

Actually not. If they were smart they could manage to pay less than someone on minimum wage.

Do us a favor and explain how. Let's see if you actually know anything about tax.

 

[LoneGunman]

Tax? Oh yeah, that stuff that a portion of my freelance bux always got taken off for.
But in terms of 'tax returns' - na, never done that - managed to operate beneath
the radar for a couple of decades, and never filed any tax returns. I could tell you
how, but then I'd have to kill you

 

[StrongTurd]

You're not paying taxes? That must be fun! I'd think twice before shouting it off the rooftops on a public forum if I were you, though.

 

[Meisteral]

You're not paying taxes? That must be fun! I'd think twice before shouting it off the rooftops on a public forum if I were you, though.

And now Lonegunman stands, runs and bumps head on wall.

 

[BTTB]

You're not paying taxes? That must be fun! I'd think twice before shouting it off the rooftops on a public forum if I were you, though.

Turd.
LG not in SA.
He has tea and scones with George at the White House now.

Besides in the USA AFAIK they don't tax you to death like SA - 10% I think? At that rate everyone would be happy to pay.

 

[Nom Chompsky]

Tax? Oh yeah, that stuff that a portion of my freelance bux always got taken off for.
But in terms of 'tax returns' - na, never done that - managed to operate beneath
the radar for a couple of decades, and never filed any tax returns. I could tell you
how, but then I'd have to kill you

Rather stupid to admit that in a public forum, even if you are in the USA. And why you are even proud of committing a criminal offense? You're like Person aka Brian Gibello, recently arrested in Boston for credit card fraud.
No wonder you believe in a system of anarchism. You'd like all the chaos so you wouldn't have to pay tax

At least it explains some of your views i.e. "the government is out to get you" mantra.

 

[Conspirator]

Here is something: Why not register yourself a Cc and contract yourself to your current company (on the basis it is water tight or else they fire you). You'll have more tax deductions available to you?!

Have fun paying fines. SARS closed that loophole a few years ago. Plus (certified) Labour brokerage firms are inspected with microscope+CAs.

Do us a favor and explain how. Let's see if you actually know anything about tax.

Dividends. Especially since SCT is being phased out.

Actually not. If they were smart they could manage to pay less than someone on minimum wage.

Minimum wage earners don't pay income tax.

 

[Meisteral]

Ok but what if someone had 2 ID books? Are there tax benefits then? Certainly. That is why I stick to my rule of increasing Vat and decreasing Income Tax. (SARS mostly concentrates revenue checks on Companies anyway)

 

[Vrotappel]

Have fun paying fines. SARS closed that loophole a few years ago. Plus (certified) Labour brokerage firms are inspected with microscope+CAs.


Dividends. Especially since SCT is being phased out.

STC only being phased out from October and will be replaced by a withholding tax. Secondly the funds out of which dividends was paid already subjected to corporate tax and dividends then subject to STC.

 

[Vrotappel]

Tax? Oh yeah, that stuff that a portion of my freelance bux always got taken off for.
But in terms of 'tax returns' - na, never done that - managed to operate beneath
the radar for a couple of decades, and never filed any tax returns. I could tell you
how, but then I'd have to kill you

Paid your tax by PAYE. Might have gotten something back if you submitted a tax return. Now if you had some money and wanted to take sum to Uncle Sam, getting a tax clearance might be a problem.

But I was referring more to legal tax evasion, the way 'rich' people do it as referred to in noxibox's post.

 

[noxibox]

Minimum wage earners don't pay income tax.

They still VAT and other things.

But I was referring more to legal tax evasion, the way 'rich' people do it as referred to in noxibox's post.

There were plenty of ways to route money such that little to none of it went to the government.

 

[Syndyre]

There were plenty of ways to route money such that little to none of it went to the government.

Were or are? If the loopholes have now been closed my original point still stands that had they still been in the country working and earning money the government's tax revenues would have been substantially greater.

 

[lsuacner]

They still VAT and other things.
There were plenty of ways to route money such that little to none of it went to the government.

Products the poor are likely to buy, are VAT free.

 

[Vrotappel]

There were plenty of ways to route money such that little to none of it went to the government.

Enlighten us by listing some of these ways.

 

[BobbyMac]

They still VAT and other things.


There were plenty of ways to route money such that little to none of it went to the government.

I'm intrigued. How are the rich avoiding paying taxes? I disagree, but apparently you have the inside scoop.