Huge SAA flight cancellations

Maybe somebody should tell the striking hoi polloi that the union should actually give them money for food, rent etc... :whistling:

After all, they "invested" their money in the union, so the union should help the membas financially during strikes?
Exactly what I proposed when some of my workers approached me for an advance after striking - the first & the last time they went on strike. This was in 1994, BTW - just 2 weeks into my new job.
 
Unsure exactly how SAA's cash flow works, but like most businesses I assume they have seasons, cycles of busy and slow periods. I cannot think of a worse time for the strike to happen during the business cycle than now, the reason is that Christmas is virtually upon us, one month away, people spend more during the festive season than any other time of year and for most businesses the cash flow generated during the peak months, let’s say November to February goes a long way to that great cycle of money. In other words the busy cycle helps pay off 30 day or even 60 day accounts that may be lagging, reduce bank overdrafts and/or increase a positive bank balance and that money goes to bridge the quieter periods of the business cycle, let’s say May to August.

With an airline, there will always be domestic flights that go on all year but international tourism must surely peak over the busy months as I pointed out.

Saying all this, I expect SAA's woes to happen next year some time, when they encounter the traditional slow months and have no reserves. All we need now is a massive unexpected increase in the price of aviation fuel in the next 6 months and SAA will for all intents and purposes be surely bankrupt, a hole so deep of debt.

The South African Government has a comedy of errors happening at this point of time, while they can bail out SAA, what about all the other SOE's that are in the same cash flow predicament. How long is a piece of string, in this case how much has the country got in reserves to simultaneously bail out all the SOEs. Surely without the Government itself getting a bailout from who knows where, they cannot financially support failing businesses. If this was a private listed company it would be down the drain like Group Five or Basil Read by now, shareholders will have lost everything.

In the short term Government should pay the people the 8% increase they demand, get back to business and hopefully rescue the few months of the business cycle that is upon us now. The Government can then silently retrench 100 workers here and then 100 a little later, basically take their boiling frog approach to their own people over the next year or two while putting SAA up for sale at the end of this period.
I really cannot see how any SOE will ever be profitable in South Africa with the socialist policies adopted by the ANC; they will continue to be flounder ad infinitum, dragging the country down with it.

One needs to ask President Cyril Ramaphosa one question. Would he if SAA was his own business, continue to run it like it has been. If he is open and honest his answer should be NO. The interviewer if there were such a person to ask him such a question, should then follow on with, then why are you wasting the taxpayers money, is it because it doesn’t come out of your own bank account. I think at that stage the atmosphere in the room would be rather awkward.
 
SAA is screwed. I'm sure most passengers have already booked and paid for their December flights. That means the cash is already in SAA's bank account. Now SAA need to buy more fuel, supplies and run more flights over December without cashflow from new ticket sales, which won't happen until January/February when businesses open again.
 
SAA is screwed. I'm sure most passengers have already booked and paid for their December flights. That means the cash is already in SAA's bank account. Now SAA need to buy more fuel, supplies and run more flights over December without cashflow from new ticket sales, which won't happen until January/February when businesses open again.
As I stated above, the strike could not have happened in my opinion at a worse time of the annual business cycle.
If by some circumstance the price of oil goes through the roof in the next 6 months or so, then I don't know, everyone there could be out of job.

Financial sabotage comes to mind.
 
As I stated above, the strike could not have happened in my opinion a worse time of the annual business cycle.
If by some circumstance the price of oil goes through the roof in the next 6 months or so, SAA will be in an even worse position.

Financial sabotage comes to mind.
I prefer to think of it as euthanasia
 
As I stated above, the strike could not have happened in my opinion at a worse time of the annual business cycle.
If by some circumstance the price of oil goes through the roof in the next 6 months or so, then I don't know, everyone there could be out of job.

Financial sabotage comes to mind.

Strikes are timed that way.
 
Financial sabotage comes to mind.
Actually my own statement got me thinking....

Who could gain if SAA did go belly up?
With all the corruption that goes on in South Africa, the mind boggles at the prospects of the airline being acquired for a song by some consortium when all this pans out.
All they need is enough pressure from the Public to force Government to sell this perennial loss making airline and voila someone got a bunch of planes and infrastructure at cents on the dollar so to speak.

Similarly, the splitting of Eskom has got a lot of tongues wagging, as many of the BEE Billionaires are in the energy business too.
 
SAA lease their fleet, don't they?
Don't know which of their planes they own or lease.
A quick Google Search says their latest Airbusses acquired in the second half of 2019 will be leased for 3 years.
 
All they need is enough pressure from the Public to force Government to sell this perennial loss making airline and voila someone got a bunch of planes and infrastructure at cents on the dollar so to speak.
If that happens, then that new airline will be run into the ground like the others... best to avoid it completely.
 
What I don't understand is - I have NEVER found an SAA flight that was cheaper than an alternative airline. So why do they have ANY customers?
Before malusi & gupta's messed up, SAA Jozi - Mumbai direct flight was the shortest (8.5 hours) and if booked well in advance, it was almost close to emirates rates but with emirates, one would have to add at least 4 hours if you got lucky.
 
Don't know which of their planes they own or lease.
A quick Google Search says their latest Airbusses acquired in the second half of 2019 will be leased for 3 years.
All leased.
 
If that happens, then that new airline will be run into the ground like the others... best to avoid it completely.

but what if like many companies your forced to fly SAA due to old rules about procurement still being in force.
lots of business travelers forced to fly SAA against their wishes, but rules are rules sometimes.
 
Did Tito not say the other day SAA Technical lost a entire engine? Just gone apparently. Vanished into thin air. lol.
One can but guess what happened. Somebody made a shady deal with somebody, and the engine got fitted, and "forgotten" all about.

Or it was never delivered... but signed off as delivered...
 
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