I copy therefore I am

dgcarter said:
Honestly I agree with this:



These large corporations are sitting at their million dollar desks hosing themselves at us poor individuals counting our penny's for a piece of software we NEED in order to make some soft of living.

Just this last week I gave Microsoft the middle finger and moved to Ubuntu, haven't looked back.

IMHO, the answer to this economic crisis begins with Open Source Software, until that day comes, I WILL copy the software and tools I need.

I think the folks over at Canonical should be given awards for their work, they are even prepared to send me an Ubuntu CD for free. One day soon, linux people WILL RULE THE WORLD! :D
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I am completely for this, use the open source alternative if you don't want to pay the big fees. But as soon as you use someones code to make money then you need to pay him for his product or service.

I don't think many here will be too happy if they worked for someone and never got paid.

I also think that corporations can't use piracy figures to justify lost income, as someone without the means just won't buy the goods.

I personally feel that things should work on a sliding scale, if it is new it cost more and over time as it becomes more popular it should become cheaper. For instance Windows 7 at launch will be expensive but by year 3 it should cost 3x less, but it never does.
 
distributing/using for your own gain(making money out of it) a song without paying royalties for it is illegal and piracy. You can argue as much as you want that is it. obviusly if you create something software/music whatever you want to sell it (being your creation) and you will not be happy if someone just takes it.

The whole way that music is sold needs to be changed.
 
Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but Nigerian artists dropped their prices drastically in order to compete with the sale of pirated music. Apparently some cd's are sold for less than R10.00.
I think all artists should follow this approach. It would definitely increase sales and could potentially increase their fan base.
 
Adie said:
I don't see the logic in many of these anti-copying arguments: I think most people who want to buy an album, buy it. Those who are downloading albums, were not planning on buying the albums in the first place, and thus aren't taking income away from the mafia.

The only reason for dropping music sales is $hitty music.
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totaly agree. I stopped buying music cd's when I completed replacing my tapes & LP collection to CD. the crap music out there certainly does not warrant the high prices the music companies r asking. Screw them!! I would rather pay the artist DIRECTLY for that 1 mp3. I refuse to buy an entire CD at R150-00 - R200-00 just for 1 song......fecking nuts man!!!

If I cannot get that mp3 then I will find alternative means! They have created their own problem......so screw them!!
 
Tns said:
distributing/using for your own gain(making money out of it) a song without paying royalties for it is illegal and piracy. You can argue as much as you want that is it. obviusly if you create something software/music whatever you want to sell it (being your creation) and you will not be happy if someone just takes it.

The whole way that music is sold needs to be changed.
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um, that's kinda what we been saying all along. :rolleyes:

Bring the music to the people... No DRM at a reasonable price... and they will buy it. Cut out the Fat Cat Middle Man... let us pay the artists directly. Nobody needs record companies anymore.... They just need to rent a studio for a few hours and then find a place to upload their tune.
 
OK so I used to work for a company that published stuff on CD. We sent our stuff out to a third party company for them to replicate. About 5 years ago it cost us R45k to replicate 10K CD's.

Now that means that if Sony were using the same guys it is only costing them R4.50 per CD to replicate if they doing a batch of around 10k. (gets cheaper for larger amounts)

So I am terribly sorry but they can take their R150-R200 music CD and put it in a place where it is going to take a highly skilled medical team a very long time to remove it.
 
The guys at The Pirate Bay are bloody heroes or just bloody stupid. Nice to see people standing up to the greedy people of this world.

Their E-mail responses are hilarious. Rofl
 
Think its only pirating (Bad) when you make money selling copys. there is nothing wrong with sharing (Copying) Lets just say everybody started sharing their cars? You just let your whole street use your car and alot of people did this. wouldnt the auto companys start freaking out and start making laws to stop us sharing our cars? The only reason copying (Not piracy) is "bad" is coz some fat captilist piG-Dogs are too greedy
 
I concur with most of the people in this forum regarding piracy and copyright. I still remember back in the days of tapes that I and a few of my friends would borrow out our music and copy the tapes to listen to. Back then the majority of people were doing it. In fact most of the major bands that make a lot of money right now and complain about piracy (Metallica comes to mind) used to encourage copying music and sharing it with fans. If I'm not mistaken this is how most of them began their careers and allowed them to become music superstars.

All that really changed from that time is that the medium of sharing has changed and the music labels and some artists became more greedy. I would love to challenge you to find a copyright lawsuit that was filed against a consumer 15 or 20 years ago. :cool:

That said, I believe firmly that artists must be rewarded for their work. I am an avid buyer of "special edition" releases where artists include the "how we made it" part for an album. The work going into getting an LP out there is staggering. To do this they need to come up with a new modus operandi.
Following the cheaper example mentioned earlier is great. Of course what the music artists as a collective must do is get rid of music labels and punt their own music online. There are dozens of sites already in place where artists can freely upload their work for the masses to enjoy, and most bands already have their own sites where fans can purchase music. Cutting out that greedy middle-man...just lovely :D

Also, DIY CD cutting is no longer such an expensive undertaking, should you wish to still go that route. Pilot your music online, and if the fans want it on CD form give it to them. It's just that simple. :)
 
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