ICASA ADSL Regulations

What a joke. They should immediately be fired! A grade I child could have done better. If this does not prove the stupidity of those ???(pre censored) bunch of incompetents nothing will. It took them 3 years and how many sittings for this to be published? The joker Paris however demonstrated ably how idiotic he really is by signing this piece of toilet paper.

The only way open now is to disregard the bunch of nincompoops called Icasa and ensure that the market gets opened up.
 
Well it's short and sweet stating the basics, myadsl made a better summary than this in the article about ITweb ;)

Edit: and I agree with the above

Edit2: RPM when does the new regulations come into effect? If they will?
 
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They have to be frigging joking.

On a quarterly basis bla bla packet losses and average latency must be posted.

Packet losses ???? In the last quarter we lost 1 gazillion packets.

Average latency???? to where. When we ping the internet we is getting lots of variation.

Prehaps it is all a joke and they will come up with the real regulations tomorrow.
 
Seriously? They want a quarterly report of packet losses? Could they pick a more useless metric.
 
My inkjet can do a better job than that gvt printer :/

The whole thing looks like such a rushed 5 minute job that they thought of at the last minute. This is a farce, we waited 2 years and the main complaint of price and international caps hasn't been addressed.
 
There was at least some hope still when they were imminent. What a disappointment.
 
Hmmm. The bit where it says that Telkom shall not reset the connection etc. My understanding is that Telkom (or your ISP) cannot measure how much bandwidth you have used until they rest. This is why some ISPs have resorted to forcing resets every hour etc when you near the end of your prepaid bandwidth.

Any comments?
 
3.4 – Local bandwidth usage shall not be subject to the cap
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One possible interpretation of above clause is that local usage should not be taken into account in the usage allocated against the cap. The other is that the current system of capping international usage after reaching a combined usage equal to the cap - the position before 1 Nov and my understanding of what IS is currently doing.

IMO the first interpretation is the more correct one - here's hoping I am right:)
 
So when are the regulations in effect from - Today?
Can I order and receive my unshaped, locally uncapped adsl line in 30 days from now?

ps. do we still need to pay for voice line rental?
 
GougedEye said:
Hmmm. The bit where it says that Telkom shall not reset the connection etc. My understanding is that Telkom (or your ISP) cannot measure how much bandwidth you have used until they rest. This is why some ISPs have resorted to forcing resets every hour etc when you near the end of your prepaid bandwidth.

Any comments?
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WA for one is in a position to measure bandwidth without reseting the connection
 
oh and how the hell did it take so long to come up with 8 pages (including introduction and definitions)? Looks like about half an hours work to me.
 
what do they mean by? 3.4 " Local bandwith usage shall not be subject to the cap." ?
 
The port priority stuff is good - other than that WTF!?

Local no-cap!? -- big deal. Get over yourselves(ICASA).

Really; 2 years to come up with 5 pages of liberally-spaced 'regulations'?
 
The most expensive toilet paper on earth

GougedEye said:
oh and how the hell did it take so long to come up with 8 pages (including introduction and definitions)? Looks like about half an hours work to me.
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2 Icasa councillors * 3 years=R3 million
50 preparations * 2 enquiries=R2 million
Office premises for said councillors=R1miilion

If you leave the definitions out R6 million/6 pages=R1 million per piece of uselessness.

There are lots of other costs that could be added(such as Paris's sleep walking signature, snacks during hearings, Telkom's expensive lawyer force, free tickets to the World Cup finals, shares in Telkom etc)
 
Why do I have a feeling this is going to be ignored by Telkom in the same manner that they've ignored the discount internet rate they're supposed to provide to schools.
 
Half an hour ago this gave me a good laugh.

Now i am pissed off. To think of the time and effort that people(not me sadly) went too at the hearings with written and oral submissions etc and this is what they come up with.
 
All this means absolutely NOTHING without specifying any prices.

No shaping - no cost specified therefore Telkom can force their current unshaped prices on us.

Also since they forced to publish contention ratio's, again no pricing is specified. They might sell lower contention at higher prices.

And what about the price of wholesale bandwidth to ISP's? Or do we have to wait in the meantime for January 19th?
 
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