Illuminati is it real.....?

tsume said:
Tupac was mentioning the Illuminati when he was alive, but he was talking about killing the whole theory. That's why the last album he recorded was titled Killuminati. Tupac started hearing about the Illuminati when he was prison in a maximum security prison. People would tell him about the Illumiati and all they doings, but Pac questioned why would a bunch a low-lives criminals be talking about such stuff. I recall that he said it was just something created to keep the minds of criminal busy and for them to find something/someone to blame. I'll try find the article if I can.
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Number one fan, keep them coming...
 
ghoti said:
No, very sure they are masons. One dude spent about 45 min trying to convince me to visit his lodge. I havent actually been to a lodge so I cant confirm it, but several masons who are very open to me inform me that Afrikaans is the language spoken in the local lodges.
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What are you saying about Afrikaans!?, if owners are Afrikaaans what's the deal...
 
where's that nutty chap called empirex? the illuminati must be up his alley - he should have a few 'refreshing' ideas and opinions on the illuminati, all seeing eye, new world order, lizard folk etc.
 
i just watched a video about Micheal Jackson that he was infected to be white
 
Found this very interesting and really good. Many insights on other secret societies including the Freemasons, Skulls and Bones and the Illuminati. This guy took 5 yrs of investigation to put this documentary together

[video=youtube;HL6v8nzFiUk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=HL6v8nzFiUk[/video]
 
ghoti said:
Im saying nothing about it, I just dont enjoy meetings in it. Simple as that.
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Interesting that you mention Afrikaans in this context. Zulu sanusi Credo Mutwa is of the opinion that some whites are ''bad'' because they worship a ''bad god.'' He was referring to a specific fraternity.


I know from experience that some Zulu sangoma's can ''discern spirits'' and that always made me wonder about the massacre of Voortrekkers at Dingane's kraal. Piet Retief (?) and some of his company belonged to said fraterny and were idientified as ''magicians'' by the Zulu. That is why they were killed.


One can speculate about this forever; it just caught my attention, that's all.
 
caiphusn said:
What are you saying about Afrikaans!?, if owners are Afrikaaans what's the deal...
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Apartheid was being maintained by a small minority of no more than 13,000 Afrikaners who all belonged to a certain fraternity. They controlled and manipulated fellow whites including Afrikaners through their secrecy and having been in key positions. Especially the Afrikaners were caught in a secue trap. Those people were swift and efficient; if you irked them, you had no future and your career was over. Then blacks think they were the only victims. One had to follow blindingly and never question instructions. Wouter Basson and thousands like him had no choice. One had to obey, or else ............
 
Conspiracy theories: always ask who stands to benefit from those. Sometimes, the theorists cause more damage than the things they theorize about. Propaganda and disinformation has always been an effective tool in warfare, be it conventional, economical or otherwise. Changing people's minds can result in change, or resistance to change.


Some of these theories are rooted in truth but take matters to levels that are just insane.


Who fund Alex Jones?
 
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