Illuminati is it real.....?

caiphusn said:
This illuminati thing ,the media and these artists that are selling their souls, what is going on!!!!?:confused:
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Yes. The queen is a giant lizard. Have a look at any of "her" public appearances and notice how she can not keep her reptilian eyes from glinting through.
 
Devill said:
Yes. The queen is a giant lizard. Have a look at any of "her" public appearances and notice how she can not keep her reptilian eyes from glinting through.
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Will NIN's Reptile play on the radio if she croaks?
 
Xino_sam said:
Please enlighten me on, what the certain fraternity is...:confused:
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I'm not sure if his talking about the Ossewabrandwag and later versions of it, but if you're interested in that sort of Apartheid/Verwoerd time conspiracies this book is quite a fascinating and scary read. It definitely gives an idea how these "fraternities" can cause havoc.

http://www.kalahari.com/books/The-T...ers-of-the-Old-South-Africa/632/34615554.aspx

The most feared security policeman in the last three apartheid decades were undoubtedly General “lang” (tall) Hendrik van den Bergh, the head of the Bureau of State Security, or Boss. This title by a former security policeman draws on facts in reconstructing a story of the tall assassin's reign of terror, a litany of political murders in his zealous quest to combat communism. Van den Bergh, who was responsible for the capture of Nelson Mandela, built a formidable intelligence network with organizations like MI5, the CIA, Mossad, as well as French and German agencies, with whose aid he performed feats that made him an admired figure in the shadowy world of Cold War espionage. In South Africa, according to the title, there are indications of his involvement in notorious incidents like the assassination of Prime Minister HF Verwoerd, the Johannesburg station bomb attack, and the killings of Dr Robert Smit and his wife on whose kitchen wall the mysterious words "RAU TEM" were painted. According to this book he may even have been involved in the death of former State President Nico Diederichs and the killing of Dutch Reformed theologian Professor Johan Heyns. Most of these murders were never solved. Much of the intrigue centers on the financial scandal that broke out in the Department of Information involving the mercurial Dr Eschel Rhoodie. In page-turning urgency it paints a terrifying picture of ideology driving a regime into a moral free fall.
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Oh just something very random, but useful to this discussion:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(conspiracy_theory)
To and for the establishment, promotion and development of a Secret Society, the true aim and object whereof shall be for the extension of British rule throughout the world, the perfecting of a system of emigration from the United Kingdom, and of colonisation by British subjects of all lands where the means of livelihood are attainable by energy, labour and enterprise, and especially the occupation by British settlers of the entire Continent of Africa, the Holy Land, the Valley of the Euphrates, the Islands of Cyprus and Candia, the whole of South America, the Islands of the Pacific not heretofore possessed by Great Britain, the whole of the Malay Archipelago, the seaboard of China and Japan, the ultimate recovery of the United States of America as an integral part of the British Empire, the inauguration of a system of Colonial representation in the Imperial Parliament which may tend to weld together the disjointed members of the Empire and, finally, the foundation of so great a Power as to render wars impossible, and promote the best interests of humanity.[43]

--Cecil Rhodes
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diabolus said:
I'm not sure if his talking about the Ossewabrandwag and later versions of it, but if you're interested in that sort of Apartheid/Verwoerd time conspiracies this book is quite a fascinating and scary read. It definitely gives an idea how these "fraternities" can cause havoc.

http://www.kalahari.com/books/The-T...ers-of-the-Old-South-Africa/632/34615554.aspx
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Thank you, not sure as well though, but book is sold out anyway. Will do some digging, if you see I am not active on the forum anymore, then "THEY" got hold of me....:cry:
 
I was under the impression that the freemasons and illuminati is somehow connected .....
 
Read this:

1. Max Du Preez.s book on Broederbond
2. A History of Communism in South Africa by Dr Henry R Pike
3. Operation Q-018 by Gerard Ludi
4. http://pietergrdevilliers.blogspot.com/2010/03/mag-die-broederbond-en-n-nuwe-boek_20.html (Use Google translate)
5. Inside Quadro by Paul Trewhela
6. http://www.sahistory.org.za/dated-event/nelson-mandela-admits-torture-dissident-guerrillas

Umanji sang his song "Moloi" meaning "witch" because people were classified as witches and then "necklaced" in South Africa when each and everyone suspected of being a dissident got murdered in this brutal way. In similar fashion, blacks kidnapped scores of blacks and tortured or even killed them in "re-education camps' in various African countries.

My generation is nearing retirement age, we were born just before or just after the rigged formation of the 1961 republic. Most of us wanted a different system but, when you read the first two books, you will understand why it could not have been done. We were not given the opportunity. You will also then see who started the trouble in SA..........................

When we were given our first opportunity to vote for black liberation in 1984, we did so. When given a second opportunity, we did so in 1988. Two referendums proving that we whites did not want apartheid.

Politicians and politics don't always reflect the will of the people.

Please read my posts down below and see how nicely we have integrated. There really is no need for one to blame the other, nor is there reason to be suspicious. The average South African wants a steady life, peace and a future. Any form of discrimination on racial basis does NOT come from the people but from politicians. WE vote them into positions they clearly don't deserve and that is a general statement and not aimed at a specific party.

Once you have read the books above, you will see how politicians and not the masses, messed up our country. I am quite happy in my predominantly black surroundings and my neighbours are super folks. It is sad to see some very negative remarks on this page, posted by the ignorant and immature. I have educated myself and deal with facts and not opinion.
 
They are and so are most fraternities. There always is an inter-connectivity somewhere.

Interesting to note that many former police officers were members of both the AB and FM, but that it was practically a taboo in the SANDF. There were literally an handful of them who were members and I can assure you that we did not like them at all.

Since 1961, only two state presidents left without a "silent coup" in parliament: Blackie Swart and Nelson Mandela.
 
In every fraternity, you will find good and bad people. There will be both manipulators and those who are honourable. There are all sorts of secret clubs and societies. I choose not to be on a witch-hunt and also not to accept membership anywhere. Freemasonry in Simonstown & Glencairn, for instance, is very powerful. The NSRI rescue vessel's name there is ''Spirit of Freemasonry.'' If they have a boat that saves lives, are they bad people? The same goes for Broederbond, ANC, etc. Every such group will have good members and a few bad ones. Most will have integrity but there has to be the usurper, the manipulator and the dictator. Such is human nature. Steer your own true course and do not worry too much about these fraternities. Let them be; be real yourself. :)
 
reneg8or said:
In every fraternity, you will find good and bad people. There will be both manipulators and those who are honourable. There are all sorts of secret clubs and societies. I choose not to be on a witch-hunt and also not to accept membership anywhere. Freemasonry in Simonstown & Glencairn, for instance, is very powerful. The NSRI rescue vessel's name there is ''Spirit of Freemasonry.'' If they have a boat that saves lives, are they bad people? The same goes for Broederbond, ANC, etc. Every such group will have good members and a few bad ones. Most will have integrity but there has to be the usurper, the manipulator and the dictator. Such is human nature. Steer your own true course and do not worry too much about these fraternities. Let them be; be real yourself. :)
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reneg8or: spot on,"you will find good and bad people", in every ogranisation, even this forum :D. Just a pity that it is only the bad things that the "outsiders" remembers. I have seen a couple of good initiatives that the FM's are linked to, not only abroad but here on our doorstep in South Africa.
 
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