Im stuck,I failed maths yet again

[Moosedrool]

I understand the concept but find it kinda funny how some of the people consider it to be something fairly within developers grasps while most dev's I know didn't do a computer science degree.

Really good devs who does computer science like work sure with hard work and effort. But the no. 1 reason kids go into bcom, beng, after trying the first 2 years in BSC computer science is always the calculus exams.

 

[Brenden_E]

I understand the concept but find it kinda funny how some of the people consider it to be something fairly within developers grasps while most dev's I know didn't do a computer science degree.

Really good devs who does computer science like work sure with hard work and effort. But the no. 1 reason kids go into bcom, beng, after trying the first 2 years in BSC computer science is always the calculus exams.

I saw a few dropouts and degree changes due to Math and C++. But I can confidently say none of the ones I observed tried particularly hard. There are long island ice teas and Jool to be had!

 

[me_]

Consider switching to BCom IS. You only do stats, not maths and on the job-front, you typically won't be disadvantaged.

 

[cguy]

Maths 2 at UCT was by far the most failed BSc course back in my day. It added a year back then, since Maths 2 was a prerequisite for CS 3.

 

[Kosmik]

I did a BIS; can't remember any hardcore math that we did. Did AP Calculus in high school. I agree it's not easy, but if you really try I don't see a logical person failing it numerous times.

I doubt BIS maths is the same as the BSC and BSCEng, its much more intricate and school-level mathematics is nothing in comparison. We covered the entire scholastic syllabus as a re-hash in the first 3 weeks.

 

[Kosmik]

I understand the concept but find it kinda funny how some of the people consider it to be something fairly within developers grasps while most dev's I know didn't do a computer science degree.

Really good devs who does computer science like work sure with hard work and effort. But the no. 1 reason kids go into bcom, beng, after trying the first 2 years in BSC computer science is always the calculus exams.

Isn't BEng the same as BSC.Eng? When I studied they did the same mathematics save for those who did a full stream into pure mathematics?

 

[Moosedrool]

Isn't BEng the same as BSC.Eng? When I studied they did the same mathematics save for those who did a full stream into pure mathematics?

I know Beng informatics in Unisa only required statistics. in 2005. There are many IT degrees. I would advise against a bcom because they get rid of C++ entirely.

 

[cguy]

Isn't BEng the same as BSC.Eng? When I studied they did the same mathematics save for those who did a full stream into pure mathematics?

At UCT it was the same for 1st year, but diverged at second year. 2nd year BEng maths moved more towards applied calculus and signal processing, while the pure maths stream would do discrete maths, linear algebra, algebra and real analysis (optional geometry and Fourier Analysis modules were available, but were much more theoretical than the BEng Fourier analysis).

 

[phoneJunky]

Isn't BEng the same as BSC.Eng? When I studied they did the same mathematics save for those who did a full stream into pure mathematics?

When I studied BEng, Bsc Maths and BEng math were only the same in the first year. Second year was different and focussed more one the math needed to start with the things needed for further subjects. No that I am studying a math and applied math degree I see that the second year BEng was more a mix between the relevant 2nd and 3rd year math modules.

And BEng and Bsc Eng is essentially the same degree

 

[Kosmik]

I know Beng informatics in Unisa only required statistics. in 2005. There are many IT degrees. I would advise against a bcom because they get rid of C++ entirely.

Shew, never heard of an engineering degree without the mathematics component though I suppose that's why the SC is dropped from the title as its informational engineering?

At UCT it was the same for 1st year, but diverged at second year. 2nd year BEng maths moved more towards applied calculus and signal processing, while the pure maths stream would do discrete maths, linear algebra, algebra and real analysis (optional geometry and Fourier Analysis modules were available, but were much more theoretical than the BEng Fourier analysis).

When I studied BEng, Bsc Maths and BEng math were only the same in the first year. Second year was different and focussed more one the math needed to start with the things needed for further subjects. No that I am studying a math and applied math degree I see that the second year BEng was more a mix between the relevant 2nd and 3rd year math modules.

And BEng and Bsc Eng is essentially the same degree

Both @cguy and @phoneJunky say are what I remember. The engineering streams were for more applied mathematics based than pure theory once you got past the initial.

 

[Moosedrool]

Shew, never heard of an engineering degree without the mathematics component though I suppose that's why the SC is dropped from the title as its informational engineering?

I might be wrong. But I remember there being a big difference with math.

 

[MirageF1]

Applied Math is a separate department at most universities.

Cosmology for example falls under this discipline. Astronomy though, under the Physics department.

I did a B.Sc majoring in Math, Applied Math from UCT in mid 80s when it was still a top rated international academic institution and a few years later did my 2nd and 3rd year credits at UniSA for Comp Sci.

Currently pursuing an Hons in Cosmology after deciding to move into an alternative career after 30 years in IT.

And for the record, third year Math is not for the faint hearted.I scraped through with about 60% ( 1st and second year were a walk in the park relatively, I got 75+% for both)

 

[Kosmik]

I might be wrong. But I remember there being a big difference with math.

Too long agooooooooooooo

 

[Kosmik]

Applied Math is a separate department at most universities.

Cosmology for example falls under this discipline. Astronomy though, under the Physics department.

I did a B.Sc majoring in Math, Applied Math from UCT in mid 80s when it was still a top rated international academic institution and a few years later did my 2nd and 3rd year credits at UniSA for Comp Sci.

Currently doing my Hons in Cosmology to pursue an alternative career after 30 years in IT.

And for the record, third year Math is not for the faint hearted.I scraped through with about 60% ( 1st and second year were a walk in the park relatively)

Celestial mechanics etc? That's a fascinating field, where are you studying it?

 

[MirageF1]

Celestial mechanics etc? That's a fascinating field, where are you studying it?

Cosmology - The large scale structure of the Universe

UniSA part time although looking at moving to a better equipped institution in the near future.

I've always been fascinated with the night sky ever since I was a young boy. I have a passion for Astro photography as well.

Apologies for moving thread off course.

 

[Kosmik]

Cosmology - The large scale structure of the Universe

I've always been fascinated with the night sky ever since I was a young boy. I have a passion for Astro photography as well.

Awesome, you have my envy, unfortunately, my advanced mathematically challenged brain would block me from the field but it's still a hobby of mine.

 

[phoneJunky]

Shew, never heard of an engineering degree without the mathematics component though I suppose that's why the SC is dropped from the title as its informational engineering?




Both @cguy and @phoneJunky say are what I remember. The engineering streams were for more applied mathematics based than pure theory once you got past the initial.

Unisa doesn’t have any BEng or BscEng degree. ECSA has strict requirements wrt to maths and other things for that that would probably be to difficult to implement for distance learning. I am still wondering how they pull it of for the BTech degrees though with the practicals and all that.

 

[Kosmik]

Unisa doesn’t have any BEng or BscEng degree. ECSA has strict requirements wrt to maths and other things for that that would probably be to difficult to implement for distance learning. I am still wondering how they pull it of for the BTech degrees though with the practicals and all that.

There used to be a required concentrated practical month where it was covered. That required on-site attendance.

 

[MirageF1]

Awesome, you have my envy, unfortunately, my advanced mathematically challenged brain would block me from the field but it's still a hobby of mine.

It's actually not as hard as pure Math per se, and the nice thing is much of the theory is used in practice.. observationally and in calculations to attempt to verify the theories.

 

[phoneJunky]

It's actually not as hard as pure Math per se, and the nice thing is much of the theory is used in practice.. observationally and in calculations to attempt to verify the theories.

Don’t sell yourself short, I am also doing a few Astronomy subjects and I am generally doing worse in it than my pure math subjects