Moosedrool
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OK guys. I can't math that hard... XD
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Moosedrool
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Oh and just for the record, 1+1 can equal 0
In group theory.
it can also equal 10....
in binary
I managed to get a 1st for maths 3. Fortunately I *really* liked topology and got a nearly perfect score for it. Complex Analysis was my worst subject. I only did App. Maths. to 2nd year. It started to get too Physicsy for me. I expect that we had many of the same lecturers. I did do some honours level courses on signal processing though.
I strongly agree about difficulty level - I probably spent 10x more time on the various math courses than I did on my other major, CS.
Kosmik
Honorary Master
I haven't done serious maths since late 90's. Most of my stuff is statistics and analysis, maybe a few compound calculations, etc but the focus is more on the interconnectivity of systems and solving business problems via constructs. The maths I think is used by the "deeper" coders ie: graphic engines, compilers, etc.I requested my UCT transcripts in 2017 ( only had my original degree certificate) 30 years after completing my degree when applying to study through UniSA.
Looking though my marks per course from 1st to 3rd year was an almost perfect fit to the 1/x graph.
Kosmik
Honorary Master
Off-topic but did you ever find that you excelled in things that really didn't interest you? I used to smoke heavy current theory and calculations ( 80+ ) but had no interest in the field, preferred light. Maybe Eskom would have been better off these days if I had pursued it
Even at school, back then my history and geography teachers were seriously bummed that I didn't take it further into matric and tertiary as I scored extremely high in both disciplines.
I'm fibbing a bit though.Well, at least it means that you could study for 100 years, and never get a 0.
My applied Math progress was more like (x+1)^3 + 50
Not surprisingly I've ended up back in AP Dept.
Off-topic but did you ever find that you excelled in things that really didn't interest you? I used to smoke heavy current theory and calculations ( 80+ ) but had no interest in the field, preferred light. Maybe Eskom would have been better off these days if I had pursued it
Even at school, back then my history and geography teachers were seriously bummed that I didn't take it further into matric and tertiary as I scored extremely high in both disciplines.
I found that if something was not interesting, but still challenging, I would eventually cultivate an interest in it if I really worked at it.
A lot of people somehow “decide” what they’re interested in when they’re teenagers (or earlier), when they really don’t have the information to make those decisions wisely.
I'm fibbing a bit though.
My applied Math progress was more like (x+1)^3 + 50
Not surprisingly I've ended up back in AP Dept.
Great. At UCT?
Nay, even if I wanted to ( which I do not). Sadly...not any more.
UNISA.
Busy investigating one or 2 SA institutions and organisations that are now offering pathways specifically for AstroPhysics, Cosmology...and far better suited for a myriad of reasons.
coderpython24
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It seems i forgot to do give some details.It was Maths 105 that i failed.Also I did that module only for the entire year.I put my everything into it and i did not make it.I most certainly knew before posting that there would be some people bashing my integrity as a dev because I failed maths,but i guess thats life.The module contained the following.Partial Derivatives,Matrices,Differential equations,Complex Numbers,Integration methods,Series and Induction.
Kosmik
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Share the list if you find them worthwhile, it's still something I'd like to study regardless of career or not.
@coderpython24 Any possibility you can write a sub/sup? Or have you already?
Kosmik
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You would have also heard other folks talking about alternates. Most will agree, with development a degree is a step in the door or an interview prospect and really only for the start of your career. Unless its changed, tertiary development is still very different from the real-world but it also matters vastly what discipline you go into later. As others have said, look into the Informatics route and move on, development is about finding solutions, think of this as a problem and work around it
It's all about what they focus on. BSc (Eng) Maths focus on application of maths and pure maths focus is partly on theory proof (I did one year cs in science so did 1st year pure maths + applied maths and stats.., 2nd year eng maths2 and fourier).
So in 2nd year you see this come through with engineering maths 2 & fourier where its more about applying maths concepts to solve problems. e.g. the coke can problem with cost of material for sides being cheaper and the top + bottom material.. this u model via calculus and solve for optimum costs excluding the obvious outliers (basic problems.. probably q1 work). ah .. i miss maths. multivariable calculus in 2nd year is where the fun begins.
WRT OP it really depends where your deficit is. is it that you don't practice enough, don't understand the theory, application, hate theorems and proofs, bad historical use of maths etc? When you fail (i did) you need to do some hard introspection into why you failing and what deficit you need to account for. Unfortunately i'm not one of those people who easily accepts that you "cant" do maths.. it's just a question of whats cause of the failure and addressing it with the appropriate remedial action. That.. and actually giving a **** and wanting to do it haha.
PS. I am assuming this is 2nd year maths.. so this could be tricky if the problem is concepts from 1st year that you need to carry into 2nd. When I was at varsity doing engineering we often saw people "stuck" with just maths which they failed numerous times and at that point.. if they lucky the deficit is limited to 2nd year work.. but after being at varsity for 2-3yrs past 1st year maths.. the 1st year baths begins to look questionable too.
I dunno.. only way these guys got through it was working hard on figuring out whats wrong and working on it. i.e. living in the maths "hotseat" with various tutors and working on a plan to cover every aspect to reduce the deficit.
Dropping out or changing majors is another way.. but if changing university there is a cost of 50% of course as you can't carry more than this to the new institution as per tertiary req.
I dunno.. only way these guys got through it was working hard on figuring out whats wrong and working on it. i.e. living in the maths "hotseat" with various tutors and working on a plan to cover every aspect to reduce the deficit.
Dropping out or changing majors is another way.. but if changing university there is a cost of 50% of course as you can't carry more than this to the new institution as per tertiary req.
Sensorei
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This?
Kosmik
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Being first-year mathematics, if you are struggling with that after repeats, I'd reconsider my path. There's no shame in it. The other option is if you believe your understanding is fundamentally flawed, get a very good private tutor. Also, no harm in improving your good points to compensate, for example, I struggled with integration but did really well with everything else so I let that carry me through.