Installing on a bad telephone line

boyequal

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Good day,

I'm thinking of having an ADSL line installed at home (goodbye iBurst), but our telephone line is very bad. When picking up the receiver, it's very crackly and the person on the other end sounds very far away. The line coming from the house leads to a box on a pole; said box is very broken and the lines are rusty. Telkom refuses to fix it, as they say it still works... They also refuse to use duct tape to properly keep the box closed; one gust of wind and the thing is open again.

My question now is, if I order an ADSL line, will all of this be fixed or is an ADSL line just not viable on my line?

Thank you!
 
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Telkom won't fix it, have a bad line here too, adsl has gotten worse and now I hardly have the line working. Telkom sent a tech over but he could do nothing about it. Adsl is a waste to me now since I depend on vodacom 3g.
 
We had the same issue, but we already had adsl, they replaced the line... I guess it just depends who you shout at and for how long.
 
...I guess it just depends who you shout at and for how long.

True - at least for me.

You need to get really pissed off on the phone (but don't get vulgar, they'll just hang up on you), and ask to speak to a supervisor.

This worked for me when applying for a Telkom business line. I waited for almost a month, patiently. Then I just got pissed off, and last week Thursday they told that they will come do the installation this week Wednesday.

It also helps to first get their names, before getting pissed off. Then threaten to report them to HelloPeter.com, and ICASA, with their names.
 
Being pissed off or rude will not get you nearly as far as being polite yet firm.
Noise on the line, Telkom must fix it.
 
Getting pissed off evokes a "I don't care" response, so it is best to be courteous.

Start by asking them to repeat their name (with surname). State your problem. State what you have done. State what you want done (without any drama!).

Remain very factual and back off on the hyperbole... Stick to the facts and keep it simple. This way you get a far better response. Also remember that the operator is trying to type in your problem while you are speaking.

BTW - they don't respond to Hellopeter, so that won't help in the least.
 
if they approve your adsl, their is a min throughput they guarantee, which is 384 if im not mistaken. if they cannot meet that the thought is they have to do anything possible to meet it. that was my understanding.
 
if they approve your adsl, their is a min throughput they guarantee, which is 384 if im not mistaken. if they cannot meet that the thought is they have to do anything possible to meet it. that was my understanding.

correct
 
Thank you very much your replies so far! Another question:

For those who know how to deal with Telkom, when would be the best time to mention that my line needs repairing when applying for an ADSL line? I'll opting for self-installation, so will a Telkom techie still have to make his way to my house?

As for the minimum throughput:
Telkom does not guarantee any throughput speeds on DSL access. DSL operates over the same pair of copper wires that is used for telephone service, and is provided only in conjunction with a telephone service. You can make and receive calls or send a fax and surf the Internet at the same time. You will not be billed for your connection time when you make use of any of the Telkom DSL services.

Source: http://www.telkom.co.za/products_services/dsl/faq.html - Question 1
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Now I'm really looking forward to dealing with Telkom :rolleyes:
 
True - at least for me.

I was talking about my own personal experience with Telkom. I started out very positive, and polite, and patient, and remained so for almost a month. I then found it getting increasingly difficult to maintain this attitude, especially when they give you the same old story each time, with no progress, and they fail to call you back when they have promised to do so.

Being pissed off or rude will not get you nearly as far as being polite yet firm.

In most cases I agree with you.

Getting pissed off evokes a "I don't care" response, so it is best to be courteous.

Again, I agree on this in most cases.


Start by asking them to repeat their name (with surname). State your problem. State what you have done. State what you want done (without any drama!).

Remain very factual and back off on the hyperbole... Stick to the facts and keep it simple. This way you get a far better response. Also remember that the operator is trying to type in your problem while you are speaking.

This does work, most of the time. But if you have to do this over and over and over again, each day, it really REALLY gets to you. If you begin to sense that they are feeding you with bull-crap stories over and over, with no progress, and they are not calling back as promised, then you need to ask for a supervisor. Don't wait till your blood begins to boil.

BTW - they don't respond to Hellopeter, so that won't help in the least.

Whether they respond or not was not my point. The point is to threaten that you will report them. A little bit of fear (however slight) goes a long way, in my experience.

For those who know how to deal with Telkom, when would be the best time to mention that my line needs repairing when applying for an ADSL line? I'll opting for self-installation, so will a Telkom techie still have to make his way to my house?

I have read on these forums that for line noise and line quality issues, it is best that you avoid mentionioning ADSL to them (at first). Tell them that voice calls are terrible, there is lots of noise, and you can hardly have a proper conversation. Then let them do their tests and send their techies out etc.

Problem is that if you mention ADSL, they treat you as a dumb consumer, and first want to verify that the modem is plugged in, the power button is switched on, you've paid your Eskom account, your router is setup correctly, your ISP isn't having problems, etc etc. I recommend that you try your best to determine if it is really your line that is the problem. i.e. eliminate modem issues (test several different modems - borrow from someone), test several ISPs, test several different cables (from modem to ADSL filter), test different ADSL filters (again, borrow from someone who you know it works for), etc. Try to eliminate as many other variables as possible.

Then phone Telkom, tell them its a voice line issue. Let them do their stuff, and then see if it makes a difference to your ADSL. Be sure to enquire if they will charge you for this or not. You don't want a nasty surprise. If it doesn't improve, then report an ADSL fault, and they will do their thing at the DSLAM at the exchange - change the ports, and check for any sync issues. This is what I've read here in the myBB forums - can anyone confirm/deny whether this makes a difference?

Good luck.

Hopefully you can sort it out. Once you get past this, it will be smooth sailing, and it'll reduce your blood pressure and stress significantly. Then you can start shopping around for the best ADSL package from all the competing ISPs, or consider going uncapped, if you can afford it, especially with all the new specials coming out.
 
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For those who know how to deal with Telkom, when would be the best time to mention that my line needs repairing when applying for an ADSL line?
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No. Don't mention adsl. Just report your line as faulty stating lots of noise/crackling etc. Get your reference number and follow up twice a day. If it's not right and they ask if they can clear it say 'no'. If they clear it then just log another fault and keep going.

Once it is sorted you apply for adsl.
 
So.... Telkom sent over a repair guy to check my line, he spotted a faulty filter and that the alarm company wired the alarm past the filter so he was about to pass the buck on to me and the alarm company then he saw the PCs I was working on and asked if I could "hook him up" so I gave him a spare Sempron PC with no harddrive and stuffed case saying he can get it fixed, and then I mentioned a new filter would be nice so he fixed the alarm connection and installed a new filter for free. :D

But the line still disconnects, the quality of the line is better now but I suspect that the exchange or something is still a mess. So still no luck getting the ADSL working as it should.
 
Have you thought about getting a ladder and fixing the line and the junction box yourself? It's not difficult to do.
 
if they say it works, make it not work!!!!....... SMASH IT!! BURN IT!!! DESTROY IT!!!!!! IL EVEN DO IT!!!!!! REdbull rocks!!!!! (so does coffe!!)
 
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